I'm still a bit miffed that proponents of indivisualism, local government,

and

parental rights are seem to be the first to blame the central government authority for not doing their jobs. Surely someone in the house or town

knows

better about what's going on than a Fed does. A generalization, I know, but from my vantage point, it tracks.

Overall, I agree. There have been instances where the FBI "knew of" a
suspect before they did something and apparently didn't notify the locals.
You would think they would also be "known of" by the locals but, in larger areas, you'd might be surprised how easy it is to be ignored.

Rights and Freedom come with Responsibility, no doubt. I am amazed, at times, how many people don't understand that.

This line deserves more attention.

They used to teach us this when the discussions of rights and freedoms came
up in school. My parents also taught me that. Boy Scouts used to teach
that also.

I am not sure what schools or scouts teach these days.


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I didn't quote anything...

I have trepidations about charging the/a parent.

I do recall saying to someone going down this rabbit hole that all the facts are in.

So... if the investigators of this crime have unearthed text messages or something like that... Where daddy says to his son... The gun I bought you is under my bed and there is 3 or 4 loaded magazines in the nightstand... go to school and shoot them MF'ers up for being bullies.

I'd see the point of charges being laid.

If the son entered a room where he knew the guns were and took the one that was meant for hunting and he, without his father knowledge or permission, took that gun and shot up the school... I think the murder charges lay at the son's feet.

I have mentioned that I am a dual citizen of Canada and the US... In Canada there are well known laws about gun storage... They have to be locked up period. In Florida at least... I know of no "law" about how to store a gun. There are some things you have to do if you are driving with one in your car. I have a carry permit so I just have mine on my hip anyway.

All I'm saying is this... To press 2nd degree murder charges on a parent... as stupid as this one maybe... MAY BE an over reach.... Never mind... just looked it up...

2nd degree murder charges in the US can stem from "Extreme recklessness".

Prosecutor will/may argue that the father should have locked up all the guns in the house knowing his son's challenges and past.

So... I still worry about the presidents charging people for other people's crimes.

You kid goes out and does criminal acts and you get charged because you missed some support payments.

If grandpa thinks his son should get the death penalty... so be it.

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I didn't quote anything...

I think I put the pieces together from previous messages...

I have trepidations about charging the/a parent.
[...]
All I'm saying is this... To press 2nd degree murder charges on a parent... as stupid as this one maybe... MAY BE an over reach....

I had the same thought initially, but once it came to light that there had been previous investigation on the issue, I'd agree that this falls under negligence and opens the door for whatever the prosecutor sees fit.

You kid goes out and does criminal acts and you get charged because you missed some support payments.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, that kind of overreach happens already all over the place, but I see it more on the civil side of things. Attaching an absent parent's insurance and assets to a claim for free money, things like that.

I'm honestly not sure what to think about that. I can see a maze of scenarios where someone should/shouldn't be held liable, and I already have a headache. :)

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I'm afraid that he seems to have given up the attempts to try to educate the brainwashed MAGA cult members here. Like so many others
before him. Only the cesspool remains.

What's wrong with MAGA - Make America Great Again.
Even Clinton used the phrase.
I have been suggesting from early on that Biden's Presidency was going be a disaster. I was told "Just give him a chance." Look what it got us.
Turns out that I was right then, just as I am right now.
They told us that Biden was strong, vital, hard to keep up with. All a lie. They said it was Conservative news organizations making cheap fakes
showing only bad moments to embarrass President Biden.
Nope. As it turned out it was Biden being Biden.

After all, Alan was from Canada, so he had no idea about anything US-related; only those who live in the US know it all.

Alan would deny things that were from verifiable sources at ANY website on the Internet. It was annoying, when we all see the same blue sky and he calls it pink, and then would goto into all kinds of irrational reasons why, not to mention using his twisted Liberal logic as to why he was right and all of us were wrong.

If my patriotism upsets maybe you also, should pull the plug.

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Alan would deny things that were from verifiable sources at ANY website
on the Internet. It was annoying, when we all see the same blue sky and
he calls it pink, and then would goto into all kinds of irrational

It's funny because when I'm right about something, I like to rub it in peoples' faces a bit. "I was right, I was right, I'm right."

But when Alan is wrong about something, he likes to rub that in peoples' faces. It's bizarre, it's funny, and I think he does it for our entertainment.

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I have trepidations about charging the/a parent.

Charging parents when a minor commits a crime, even if the minor is charged
as an adult, is not new.

Finding parents financially liable in civil court is even less new. As the details have emerged, I suspect this daddy is going to be the target of
many negligence lawsuits (and rightfully so).

So... if the investigators of this crime have unearthed text messages or something like that... Where daddy says to his son... The gun I bought you

is

under my bed and there is 3 or 4 loaded magazines in the nightstand... go to school and shoot them MF'ers up for being bullies.

If the father wasn't told his son was a potential threat, and then turned around and bought the kid a gun anyway, you might have a point. As is, he should have known better and should be charged.

2nd degree murder charges in the US can stem from "Extreme recklessness".

Which fits in this instance.

I would also argue that it fits the description of the actions of local law enforcement, who took the kid's "I don't have Discord, I only have Tik Tok" word over the FBI evidence.


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