• The Epstein case

    From Joseph Pereira@1:124/5016 to All on Fri Jul 18 05:16:08 2025

    Trump is reportedly going to release some information regarding the Epstein case, but the list of names will remain secret. He himself is likely quite prominently on that list because his house was used as a hunting ground by Epstein.

    It has become one big cover-up, and that is significantly harming Trump. Even his base is starting to have doubts now. That says something, because MAGA is simply a cult.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Joseph Pereira on Fri Jul 18 08:41:43 2025
    On 18 Jul 2025, Joseph Pereira said the following...


    Trump is reportedly going to release some information regarding the Epstein case, but the list of names will remain secret. He himself is likely quite prominently on that list because his house was used as a hunting ground by Epstein.


    Ummm... Alan Dershowitz a famous Democrat Harvard Constitutional Professor who was also Epstein's Lawyer during his Florida trial said... There is no client list. That's coming from someone who has seen the evidence.

    And lastly... There isn't anything about Trump... Because if there was they would have used it by now... instead of making up BOGUS charges and conspiracies they could have just used the Epstein files... The Democrats had this information during The Auto-Pen Administration with people who do not like Trump never used that information to bring him down.

    I say bring out out... It might make the Clintons look bad... or Hopefully Bill Gates...

    So... Laura Trump was on FOX, she works there now... She said that Daddy Trump will release what he can.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 18 11:27:29 2025
    Epstein case, but the list of names will remain secret. He himself is likely quite prominently on that list because his house was used as a hunting ground by Epstein.


    Ummm... Alan Dershowitz a famous Democrat Harvard Constitutional

    Where's our buddy with the "Don't feed the trolls" ascii? ;)

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 18 19:12:53 2025
    On 18 Jul 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Where's our buddy with the "Don't feed the trolls" ascii? ;)


    Who knows... :) I was reading something that you wrote a few days ago, I wanted to comment then and didn't.

    You said, and I'm paraphrasing, that you wanted the Epstein Client list or even the flight logs or whatever.

    Though I would like to see a conclusion on this matter I'd rather see the facts drawn out in a court room.

    For example... Trump knew Epstein on a social bases. Both were from NY and both had a place West Palm Beach Florida. When Epstein hit on a 14 YO at Mar-a-Lago Trump ejected and ban Epstein from the resort. When Epstein went to court on his Florida issue trump called the prosecutor to testify, they didn't have to subpoena Trump for testimony.

    I don't care if you're an offender and your name is released... I care if you had known Jeffery on a casual bases and your name gets linked to him.

    Liberal thought they had something on Trump... and now they are running around with their Blue Hair on fire because Trump is trying to release the transcripts from that Florida case.

    Measured response is best. I think there is something there... Prince Andrew and Bill Gates to mention a few.

    If Daddy trump says there is nothing there... Lets move on to Barry and the Russia hoax, the Auto-Pen and making America Great Again.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 19 08:17:21 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Joseph Pereira <=-

    Ummm... Alan Dershowitz a famous Democrat Harvard Constitutional
    Professor who was also Epstein's Lawyer during his Florida trial
    said... There is no client list. That's coming from someone who has
    seen the evidence.

    Ya, but he's a Democrat, so we can't trust anything he says.

    IHMO: There is no "client list" because the Left changed the meaning of "client list" so they can claim it doesn't exist.

    And lastly... There isn't anything about Trump... Because if there was they would have used it by now...

    That's why I'm not worried about any of the Epstein stuff coming out and neither is Trump.

    What I am worried about is manufactured "evidence".

    The Wokies can't even maintain a chain of custody for ballots. I doubt they can do so for evidence.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 18 22:14:59 2025
    I don't care if you're an offender and your name is released... I care
    if you had known Jeffery on a casual bases and your name gets linked to him.

    I'm missing the point. Why care about that? Rich elites know one another. Trump is rich and elite, so he goes to dinners with people, he plays golf with people, he's even attended the World Economic Forum with some of the world's most evil elites. Technically, Trump's name is linked to even worse people than Epstein. But his intentions are not linked to their intentions.

    Measured response is best. I think there is something there... Prince Andrew and Bill Gates to mention a few.

    If Daddy trump says there is nothing there... Lets move on to Barry and the Russia hoax, the Auto-Pen and making America Great Again.

    Yea. Trump was right when he said "nobody cares about Epstein." We have way bigger fish to fry.

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  • From Ne Va@1:105/420 to Joseph Pereira on Fri Jul 18 22:33:24 2025
    It has become one big cover-up, and that is significantly harming Trump. Even his base is starting to have doubts now. That says something,
    because MAGA is simply a cult.

    Anyone in the US that is allowed to hold any amount of power is dirty. The US regime runs on blackmail. People willingly allow themselves to be blackmailed as the cost of doing business and entrance into the small and elite club.

    Trump can no longer be elected and the regime upholds the appearance of
    these types of traditions which means it is now time to burn their political capital and demoralize those that supported Trump.

    If you see someone in power they are dirty. Your local congressman, dirty. Your governor, dirty. If they are by chance not dirty and do not approve of what is going on they will be removed and replaced.

    and before you ask by dirty do you mean they fuck children? yes, that and more.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 19 11:17:26 2025
    On 18 Jul 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I'm missing the point. Why care about that? Rich elites know one
    another. Trump is rich and elite, so he goes to dinners with people, he plays golf with people, he's even attended the World Economic Forum with some of the world's most evil elites. Technically, Trump's name is
    linked to even worse people than Epstein. But his intentions are not linked to their intentions.


    Association with Epstein in the court of Public Opinion could be devastating to your life and carrier... FOR no reason other than you knew him.

    Whereas, a Court of Law will determine things based on fact and law.

    I would love to see Bill Gates going down hard... But I don't want any people who knew him socially, and not what he did, go down with Bill.

    I think Price Andrew had a plea agreement with the young woman who was suicided recently.

    More witnesses will die and if people are going to die I'd rather it be from facts, court of law, than opinion.


    Yea. Trump was right when he said "nobody cares about Epstein." We have way bigger fish to fry.


    He also said he was once the hunted and now he's the hunter...

    Looks like Barry might be in trouble.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 19 14:51:57 2025
    Association with Epstein in the court of Public Opinion could be devastating to your life and carrier... FOR no reason other than you
    knew him.

    I used to think that way too, but the majority of America isn't interested in Trump's "crimes." I think I read that now he wants the files released just to shut people up, but then they'll just find something else to whine about.

    Looks like Barry might be in trouble.

    I despise the things that Barry has done, but I love Tulsi's updates. I love how she used the word "treasonous" at least twice in 1 paragraph. Treason is a very punishable offense, and I don't think that probation will be an option ;)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ne Va on Sat Jul 19 15:36:03 2025
    Even his base is starting to have doubts now. That says something, because MAGA is simply a cult.

    Anyone in the US that is allowed to hold any amount of power is dirty.
    The US regime runs on blackmail. People willingly allow themselves to be blackmailed as the cost of doing business and entrance into the small
    and elite club.

    I agree with you a lot on all this..

    Trump can no longer be elected and the regime upholds the appearance of these types of traditions which means it is now time to burn their political capital and demoralize those that supported Trump.

    But not about Trump though. Trump has done nothing but good for the working class. You're right when you say "they're all dirty" but what about Trump? What's he done that's so dirty? Not a damn thing.

    Another good elected official is the Sheriff in my county. He's one out of 3 County Sheriffs in the state who had the balls to stand up against the governor's tyranny regarding illegal immigrants.

    99% of them are dirty. Just not my Trump.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 20 10:08:00 2025
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    Yea. Trump was right when he said "nobody cares about Epstein." We have way bigger fish to fry.

    Right. We have way higher priority stuff to do, I think.

    Ya, we might not get around to prosecuting some of Epstein's clints for a while, but those clients will live out their lives in fear of being exposed.

    Some might bypass justice, by dying, but their lives will be awful until then.

    Some of the clients might be picked up by the other prosecutions. I'm willing to bet that most on Epstein Island did not only do the one crime.

    The only thing that people don't get is closure. But I'm willing to forego that to destroy the Deep State and Elitists so that Epstein is never allowed to happen again.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 20 10:08:00 2025
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    I would love to see Bill Gates going down hard... But I don't want any people who knew him socially, and not what he did, go down with Bill.

    Right. "Guilt by association" is a Leftie thing. We want no part of that.

    Looks like Barry might be in trouble.

    I have my doubts, but I remain hopeful.

    But Osama is still just a figurehead. He's too stupid to actually plan anything.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 20 10:08:00 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Ne Va <=-

    But not about Trump though. Trump has done nothing but good for the working class. You're right when you say "they're all dirty" but what about Trump? What's he done that's so dirty? Not a damn thing.

    He's just pushing the "On both sides" Narrative that the Wokies like.

    Another good elected official is the Sheriff in my county. He's one out
    of 3 County Sheriffs in the state who had the balls to stand up against the governor's tyranny regarding illegal immigrants.

    Sheriffs, unlike the police, are elected by the public. So they have more power to resist since they aren't dependent on funding and authority from a corrupt person higher up.

    Here in Michigan, many sheriffs refused to enforce our tyrant governor's edicts because they were blatently unconstitutional - as later ruled by our courts.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 20 11:24:03 2025
    On 19 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    What I am worried about is manufactured "evidence".


    Great topic!!!

    What do you think about the information Tulsi brought forward about Barry and the Intel Agencies did back in 2016 with the Russia Hoax??

    Midterms looking good. The Democrats will be fighting many fronts. The Auto-Pen stuff... Joe Biden's Cognitive decline cover up... And this new stuff that implicates Barry and even Susan Rice.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 20 11:30:13 2025
    On 19 Jul 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I used to think that way too, but the majority of America isn't
    interested in Trump's "crimes." I think I read that now he wants the
    files released just to shut people up, but then they'll just find something else to whine about.


    We'll see what happens. I wrote @RonL a message... I think the midterms will be spectacular... The Dems will have to defend all these allegations over the next few years... Open border, Auto-Pen, Cognitive Decline and now Barry, Susan Rice and the Intel Team manufacturing Intel in an attempt to over-through the Trump Administration.


    I despise the things that Barry has done, but I love Tulsi's updates. I love how she used the word "treasonous" at least twice in 1 paragraph. Treason is a very punishable offense, and I don't think that probation will be an option ;)


    Get your popcorn...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 20 11:42:30 2025
    Some of the clients might be picked up by the other prosecutions. I'm willing to bet that most on Epstein Island did not only do the one crime.

    The only thing that people don't get is closure. But I'm willing to forego that to destroy the Deep State and Elitists so that Epstein is never allowed to happen again.

    Yea it's fine with me too. Whatever happened on Epstein's island isn't tangible; I can't see, hear, or smell anything pertaining to it.

    But what IS tangible is the Trump-Russia hoax, the importation of millions of undocumented people, and the receipts for Build Back Better. Let's fry those fish.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 20 11:44:01 2025
    On 20 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Right. "Guilt by association" is a Leftie thing. We want no part of that.


    I want justice that's all. The young lady who was suicided... She was the one who complained About Price Andrew. She recalls that he sweated like a PIG, she recalls how disgusting it was.

    Prince Andrew responded to that with... I have a medical condition that doesn't allow me to sweat... He didn't say... I didn't do it... He said that he doesn't sweat.

    I would love to see justice in this case, for the young girls that had to endure these creeps...

    Our world is messed up...


    I have my doubts, but I remain hopeful.

    But Osama is still just a figurehead. He's too stupid to actually plan anything.


    I'm not sure... Not saying he's smart... There is a video out there that shows Barry talking on this exact topic.

    He said that all you have to do is overwhelm the public with lies and they won't be able to figure out the truth.

    You have Barry and the Intel Community in conjunction with the "Free Press" investigating nonexistent crimes and the media perpetuating these lies.

    There is a cancer in society and it comes from the political left.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 21 08:07:00 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    What I am worried about is manufactured "evidence".

    Great topic!!!

    What do you think about the information Tulsi brought forward about
    Barry and the Intel Agencies did back in 2016 with the Russia Hoax??

    Nothing we didn't already know. We just didn't have hard evidence.

    But the real question still is: Will people be held responsible?

    Some people are saying Osama has immunity, but since "interfering with an election" is not an official duty of the President, I don't think that will hold up.

    But trust in our judiciary is at an all time low, for good reasons.

    Midterms looking good. The Democrats will be fighting many fronts.
    The Auto-Pen stuff... Joe Biden's Cognitive decline cover up... And
    this new stuff that implicates Barry and even Susan Rice.

    Unless there is massive cheating, I can't see the Dems getting wins in the midterms.

    But the Election Fraud machines are still alive and well in Michigan and Commieforna (and probably other places too).


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 21 08:07:00 2025
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    Yea it's fine with me too. Whatever happened on Epstein's island isn't tangible; I can't see, hear, or smell anything pertaining to it.

    Because the information about it is suppressed like the D-Day plans, with lots of false trails leading away.

    But Rand Paul pointed out that we **do** have some documentation:
    Epstein's bank account records. $1 billion in a year from many people. There's a nice list of "who should we investigate?"

    But what IS tangible is the Trump-Russia hoax, the importation of
    millions of undocumented people, and the receipts for Build Back
    Better. Let's fry those fish.

    Bureaucracy is really good at leaving a paper trail, that's for sure.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 21 08:07:00 2025
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    Prince Andrew responded to that with... I have a medical condition that doesn't allow me to sweat... He didn't say... I didn't do it... He said that he doesn't sweat.

    She assumed it was sweat. But it was really drool.

    Ack! I just made the whole vision worse. Sorry.

    I would love to see justice in this case, for the young girls that had
    to endure these creeps...

    I think that everyone wants that - except for the Elitists who want to avoid responsibility for their actions.

    Our world is messed up...

    You're preaching to the choir.

    But this has been a problem for a long time and we've ignored it for a long time. Now we **have** to do something about it.

    He said that all you have to do is overwhelm the public with lies and
    they won't be able to figure out the truth.

    If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS.

    But Osama is correct. His masters probably got that from Rules for Radicals.

    There is a cancer in society and it comes from the political left.

    The Left was always a cancer. But over the last 40 some years, it metastasized.

    Before WWII, for example, Hitler and the Dems had a nice love fest. But Hitler didn't want to take things as far as the slave-loving Dems.

    Dems: If you have a drop of african blood, you are a slave.
    Hitler: If you have a drop of jew blood, you .... Well, let's not go that far.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 21 08:37:07 2025
    But Rand Paul pointed out that we **do** have some documentation: Epstein's bank account records. $1 billion in a year from many people. There's a nice list of "who should we investigate?"

    It sounds kinda like a witch-hunt to me. But if they can prosecute people with solid evidence, then ok.

    But what IS tangible is the Trump-Russia hoax, the importation of millions of undocumented people, and the receipts for Build Back Better. Let's fry those fish.

    Bureaucracy is really good at leaving a paper trail, that's for sure.

    Having James Comey's daughter do the investigations is bad for the paper trail though.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 21 09:37:16 2025
    On 21 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Nothing we didn't already know. We just didn't have hard evidence.

    But the real question still is: Will people be held responsible?

    Some people are saying Osama has immunity, but since "interfering with an election" is not an official duty of the President, I don't think that will hold up.

    But trust in our judiciary is at an all time low, for good reasons.


    DC finds ways to hide their mistakes... Hillary was implicated as well... People will die.

    I cannot wait to hear the Democrats go on about not being able to arrest a president.

    I think the Republicans should use the Democrat play book and flood the system with Truth and Facts instead of lies and fabrications.

    They need to grind the shit out of this until the midterms are over.

    We need MEMES like the Coldplay Kiss Cam got with the poor couple who just wanted to have an affair... This needs to take a life of its own.


    Unless there is massive cheating, I can't see the Dems getting wins in
    the midterms.

    But the Election Fraud machines are still alive and well in Michigan and Commieforna (and probably other places too).


    I think everyone is more aware of the cheating. I think the scandal is too big. I think some will be primaried and others might go to jail... Adam Schiff has too many issues and it is my hope he'll face some jail time.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jul 22 07:20:58 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    But Rand Paul pointed out that we **do** have some documentation: Epstein's bank account records. $1 billion in a year from many people. There's a nice list of "who should we investigate?"

    It sounds kinda like a witch-hunt to me. But if they can prosecute
    people with solid evidence, then ok.

    But knowing where to look for evidence is the first step to finding it.

    The bank account records aren't proof. But they are a research vector to find proof.

    I mean, if the gov't were to look at my bank accounts and find that I made a $1 million transfer to someone under investigation already, they'd be right to ask me:
    1. Where did I get the $1 million in the first place.
    2. Why did I send it to the other person.

    A transaction of that amount isn't "helping out a buddy down on his luck"

    Bureaucracy is really good at leaving a paper trail, that's for sure.

    Having James Comey's daughter do the investigations is bad for the
    paper trail though.

    But she's been fired. So she shouldn't be involved.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Tue Jul 22 07:20:58 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    DC finds ways to hide their mistakes... Hillary was implicated as
    well... People will die.

    Speaking of that....

    I just heard a rumor that the person who "validated" Osama's fake birth certificate mysteriously died in a plane crash. He was the only victim.

    I cannot wait to hear the Democrats go on about not being able to
    arrest a president.

    If he wasn't a citizen, he couldn't have been the President, and any protctions should be null-and-void.

    But even so, the "immunity" clause applies to only official actions in office. I don't believe that crimes under our laws can be "official actions", but it will be interesting to see that play out in court.

    I think the Republicans should use the Democrat play book and flood the system with Truth and Facts instead of lies and fabrications.

    That will be much easier when the Propaganda Ministry, er... Media is bankrupt.

    They need to grind the shit out of this until the midterms are over.

    I think they are. Operation Let-Them-Speak is moving along very nice.

    I think everyone is more aware of the cheating. I think the scandal is too big. I think some will be primaried and others might go to jail... Adam Schiff has too many issues and it is my hope he'll face some jail time.

    I think many people are hoping for this.

    We are tired of these people committing crimes and walking away free.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue Jul 22 09:36:30 2025
    On 22 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Speaking of that....

    I just heard a rumor that the person who "validated" Osama's fake birth certificate mysteriously died in a plane crash. He was the only victim.


    Funny AF... I was listening to a lawyer talking today, I usually listen to him about 2nd amendment stuff, but he did opine on this exact topic.

    He did say that Obama could escape some of these charges by saying his Birth Certificate from Hawaii was fake. Obama is still a citizen just not a
    "Naturally Born" Citizen.

    -= From what I know on a personal side =-

    I have a daughter who born after I became a citizen and she was not born in the US. When she was born I applied for a "Consular Report of Birth Abroad" AKA CRBA.

    This looks like a birth certificate... It's the document that says she's a citizen and its the one we use to get her passports and whatnot.

    I'm not sure why Barry didn't have a CRBA for his birth in Kenya... If his mother was a US citizen, all you need is 1 US parent, and his daddy was a deadbeat father from Kenya.

    If this is the case... Like my daughter who isn't a "Naturally Born Citizen" based on the Constitution's meaning. My daughter, though a US citizen, cannot be president... I would argue that Barry could not be one either.

    I often wondered why he didn't have this document, CRBA, and came to the conclusion that he wasn't even slightly a US citizen... at all...


    If he wasn't a citizen, he couldn't have been the President, and any protctions should be null-and-void.

    But even so, the "immunity" clause applies to only official actions in office. I don't believe that crimes under our laws can be "official actions", but it will be interesting to see that play out in court.


    There was a great example of this during the Obama Administration... Do you recall the time that Obama sent a drone to kill a US citizen in Yemen... He was a radical Muslim, the head of this group. And Obama had him killed.

    No Due Process, just his signature, and he was killed.

    This would have been a great argument to hear... Can a president kill a US citizen without due process?? There are arguments to support this... I'm just a President doing Presidential things.

    I am not saying these are valid, but rather there is room here to make them.

    If Barry wanted to start robbing banks while he was the President immunity would not be given to him... It's like a Judge has a similar immunity, while conducting official business, is not covered if you sneak an Illegal Alien out the back door to escape being arrested by ICE.

    Barry had an "Argument" with killing a citizen without giving him his due process whereas he does not have this argument when he was conspiring to circumvent the will of the people with this treasonous conspiracy.


    That will be much easier when the Propaganda Ministry, er... Media is bankrupt.


    It's looking like that might happen soon enough.


    I think they are. Operation Let-Them-Speak is moving along very nice.


    That, and let the Republicans hold hearing and the DOJ work their magic with Facts and Truth.


    I think many people are hoping for this.

    We are tired of these people committing crimes and walking away free.


    Schiff and Nancy are implicated as well.

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