• The REAL scam

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to All on Thu Jul 17 19:21:06 2025
    The REAL scam is the news story itself:

    "Sen. Gillibrand spoke about the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, or CFPB, which is facing major cuts as part of President Trump's efforts to downsize and cut spending."

    The CFPB was created by Democrats in 2011. The article said that seniors have lost more than $5 billion dollars in scams just last year, so does it sound like CFPB is worth the $500 million dollars per year it takes to run it?

    CFPB is just another piece of Democrat bureaucracy that gives trash like Gillibrand talking points and she's crying to the "Government Accountability Office" which is yet another piece of Democrat bureaucracy that wastes money under the guise of saving it.

    The layers of deceit in that news article shocked me, and I've decoded a lot of sh!t.

    https://www.wbng.com/2025/07/17/sen-gillibrand-speaks-out-about-cuts-scam-fraud -protection-agencies/

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 18 10:07:38 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    The CFPB was created by Democrats in 2011. The article said that
    seniors have lost more than $5 billion dollars in scams just last year,
    so does it sound like CFPB is worth the $500 million dollars per year
    it takes to run it?

    CFPB is just another piece of Democrat bureaucracy that gives trash
    like Gillibrand talking points and she's crying to the "Government Accountability Office" which is yet another piece of Democrat
    bureaucracy that wastes money under the guise of saving it.

    EVERYTHING the Dems set up does the opposite of what they claim.

    I wouldn't be surprised one bit if someone wasn't getting money back from the senior scams and such.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Fri Jul 18 11:25:50 2025
    CFPB is just another piece of Democrat bureaucracy that gives trash like Gillibrand talking points and she's crying to the "Government Accountability Office" which is yet another piece of Democrat bureaucracy that wastes money under the guise of saving it.

    EVERYTHING the Dems set up does the opposite of what they claim.

    I wouldn't be surprised one bit if someone wasn't getting money back
    from the senior scams and such.

    You totally get it, because I was thinking the same thing. I've suspected for quite some time that Democrats are behind the scams on the elderly. Clue #1 is how they keep tricking them into believing that Republicans are trying to take away their Medicare and/or Social Security. Clue #2 is they don't take any real action on the scams while many things can be done without costing taxpayers. Clue #3 is they're Democrats.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 19 08:17:21 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    You totally get it, because I was thinking the same thing. I've
    suspected for quite some time that Democrats are behind the scams on
    the elderly. Clue #1 is how they keep tricking them into believing that Republicans are trying to take away their Medicare and/or Social
    Security. Clue #2 is they don't take any real action on the scams while many things can be done without costing taxpayers. Clue #3 is they're Democrats.

    But none of those people are smart enough to come up with such a scam.

    It would be interesting to know who the "mastermind" is behind the scenes.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sat Jul 19 15:23:29 2025
    But none of those people are smart enough to come up with such a scam.

    It would be interesting to know who the "mastermind" is behind the
    scenes.

    There's something fishy about a recent law that was passed (by Democrats) that makes robo-calls illegal. I used to get a lot of those calls, but they stopped after the law was passed. So now the scammers are using public records to make custom scam mail that they send to elderly people through USPS.

    "Dear **Mr Thomas** The interest rate on your loan through **PNC BANK** will increase in 5 days unless you call the number listed below."

    Here's what makes me so suspicious about this: Why did the scammers stop calling people? Just because Democrats passed a law? Who cares about the law when you're a scammer? It doesn't add up.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 20 10:08:00 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    There's something fishy about a recent law that was passed (by
    Democrats) that makes robo-calls illegal.

    Something's certainly rotten in Denmark there (or would that be Sweden?).

    Democrats don't do anything to help the people.

    I used to get a lot of those
    calls, but they stopped after the law was passed.

    We need an app for our phones that sends out an air horn-like call, hangs up then blocks the number.

    I never answer my phone if I don't know who is calling. All legitimate callers will leave a message. Scammers won't (mainly because they aren't dialing the number - a computer is). After a while, and a few blocked numbers, they stop calling.

    "Dear **Mr Thomas** The interest rate on your loan through **PNC BANK** will increase in 5 days unless you call the number listed below."

    I could see how that would work. It kinds bypasses our "BS detectors". But it's the same stuff that phishers have been doing for a long time.

    Here's what makes me so suspicious about this: Why did the scammers
    stop calling people? Just because Democrats passed a law? Who cares
    about the law when you're a scammer? It doesn't add up.

    Well, it could add up.

    Scammers call many, many people, they don't get many "hits". And even fewer of those will fall for their scam. Then they have to pay for the calls, so they need to make enough on the scam to make it worth their while. If they get charged with crime, maybe that puts it over their "worth my time" threshold.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 20 10:12:50 2025
    There's something fishy about a recent law that was passed (by
    Democrats) that makes robo-calls illegal. I used to get a lot of those calls, but they stopped after the law was passed. So now the scammers
    are using public records to make custom scam mail that they send to elderly people through USPS.

    "Dear **Mr Thomas** The interest rate on your loan through **PNC BANK** will increase in 5 days unless you call the number listed below."

    Here's what makes me so suspicious about this: Why did the scammers stop calling people? Just because Democrats passed a law? Who cares about the law when you're a scammer? It doesn't add up.
    True, additionally who cares about the law when you know that you will be back out walking the streets committing more acts of violence, some of them heinous and all within 24 hours or less and this is fueled by the culture of poverty and the damaging lyrics of Jay Z, Ice Cube, Snoop Dog as well others who climb aboard this train of filth for the lost souls that are infected by it. They generate millions of dollars, and all protected by freedom of speech. Perhaps it shouldn't be because it lends itself to much more them
    claiming fire in non-existant burning building.

    Ball Reform must be reexamined and or eliminated. Stop the cycle. Cold.
    More then anything or anyone; who is to blame it is the Democratic Party in these urban cities that the finger should be directly pointed at. Accountability must have it's voice and these people in office within these cities must be removed and people who paid to put them like pawns must be held accountable as well.

    People like George Soros and geek son w/ the glasses - him too.
    The only way he will grace the cover of GQ is if he buys the periodical.
    He is so ridiculously smugly. These people and their paid influence, not good. Thinking about it now and hollywood shows us a parallel.

    Ra'al Ghul the city must be burned to save it.
    When corruption has rooted itself so deeply into a system into the courts, into media, into finance, into the damn culture itself it starts to feel like there's no other option but to tear it all down and start over.

    And yeah, George Soros and his ilk including that smug little heir of his they aren't hiding it anymore. They're pouring millions into DA's who won't prosecute crime, into movements that weaken law enforcement, and into media and academic circles that shove this guilt-ridden, anti-American, identity-obsessed sludge down the public's throat. And for what?
    Power. Control. Chaos. It's like they're buying the decay.

    And Hollywood? it's like a funhouse mirror of that same damn rot.
    They glamorize dysfunction, emasculate men, praise victimhood, and erase real heroes while rewriting history to serve their narrative. Every script, every award show, every late-night monologue oozes with smug, detached elitism like they think the rest of us are too dumb to see through the act.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 20 11:36:41 2025
    Here's what makes me so suspicious about this: Why did the scammers stop calling people? Just because Democrats passed a law? Who cares about the law when you're a scammer? It doesn't add up.

    Well, it could add up.

    Scammers call many, many people, they don't get many "hits". And even fewer of those will fall for their scam. Then they have to pay for the calls, so they need to make enough on the scam to make it worth their while. If they get charged with crime, maybe that puts it over their "worth my time" threshold.

    I understand your logic, but most of the scammers I've dealt with seem to be calling from Jamaica and/or Nigeria. They literally have nothing to lose. So why would they (assuming I'm right about where they were calling from) suddenly cease fire in wake of Democrat-passed legislation?

    It seems like the Democrats called their Nigerian friends and said "Guys, no more phone calls. We need to make it look like our legislation was useful. So now hit those old people with some USPS scams instead!"

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jul 20 12:14:48 2025
    Here's what makes me so suspicious about this: Why did the scammers s calling people? Just because Democrats passed a law? Who cares about law when you're a scammer? It doesn't add up.
    True, additionally who cares about the law when you know that you will
    be back out walking the streets committing more acts of violence, some
    of them heinous and all within 24 hours or less and this is fueled by

    Yea, with all the stuff people walk out of jail for, who's scared to make a few scam calls? Illegal doesn't exist anymore thanks to these damn Demomcrats.

    of them heinous and all within 24 hours or less and this is fueled by
    the culture of poverty and the damaging lyrics of Jay Z, Ice Cube, Snoop Dog as well others who climb aboard this train of filth for the lost

    I agree with you on that. I used to listen to rock and metal, and I was a big Ozzy/Sabbath fan. But the 2020 election ruined it for me and now I only listen to Christian & Country music. I don't want to hear a single note from musicians who are part of the "Ruin America" movement. (But Snoop Dogg is MAGA now, isn't he?)

    Accountability must have it's voice and these people in office within these cities must be removed and people who paid to put them like pawns must be held accountable as well.

    I'm with you. We need to do what we did for Trump in other elections too. (Pray hard, take extra people with us to the polls, etc.) We have the perfect president and now we just need to get the perfect governor and we'll have it made.

    People like George Soros and geek son w/ the glasses - him too.
    The only way he will grace the cover of GQ is if he buys the periodical. He is so ridiculously smugly. These people and their paid influence, not good. Thinking about it now and hollywood shows us a parallel.

    That little goofball lives in NYC. Of all the places in the world where he can live (with his endless pile of money) why'd he choose NYC? Hmmm.. probably to manipulate elections and organize large groups of people to do evil things!

    And Hollywood? it's like a funhouse mirror of that same damn rot.
    They glamorize dysfunction, emasculate men, praise victimhood, and erase

    I can't stand it. I haven't enjoyed movies since before 2020 either. My daughter complained to me about the new Smurfs movie being woke, using a black hip hop singer to voice Smurfette, and using the word "retard" in the movie. I explained to her "People who make movies are evil. Don't let it ruin your day."

    real heroes while rewriting history to serve their narrative. Every script, every award show, every late-night monologue oozes with smug, detached elitism like they think the rest of us are too dumb to see through the act.

    When I was a kid I thought actors and musicians were cool and I wanted to be like them. They rehearse the things they say, they wear fancy clothes and makeup, they aren't overweight, they have a full head of hair, and they put on a presentation that rubs off on foolish people. My fascination with them wasn't by accident; they do it on purpose so that they can (try to) use their influence on people. We need the schools to teach the kids how to break those chains!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 21 08:07:00 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I understand your logic, but most of the scammers I've dealt with seem
    to be calling from Jamaica and/or Nigeria. They literally have nothing
    to lose. So why would they (assuming I'm right about where they were calling from) suddenly cease fire in wake of Democrat-passed
    legislation?

    That is a really good question. I really can't see a connection.

    Are the Dems recruiting the call centers to be political callers for the midterms?

    Maybe the scam agencies were being funded by NGOs who no longer have our tax dollars to spend.

    Maybe the Dems offered citizenship to all the call center people, so they have to "keep their noses clean" for that to happen.

    All purely speculation since we have no information.

    It seems like the Democrats called their Nigerian friends and said
    "Guys, no more phone calls. We need to make it look like our
    legislation was useful. So now hit those old people with some USPS
    scams instead!"

    That doesn't ring true. I never even knew such legislation was passed, so I doubt "vote for us because we allow fewer scam calls" will carry much weight. Most people are on their guard for scam calls now.

    Maybe it was just coincidence and a critical mass of people are on guard for scam calls that the call centers simply shut down due to lack of morons to fall for their scams.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 21 08:35:00 2025
    It seems like the Democrats called their Nigerian friends and said "Guys, no more phone calls. We need to make it look like our legislation was useful. So now hit those old people with some USPS scams instead!"

    That doesn't ring true. I never even knew such legislation was passed,
    so I doubt "vote for us because we allow fewer scam calls" will carry
    much weight. Most people are on their guard for scam calls now.

    Some of the legislation was signed into law: The Do Not Call Act, which "increases penalties" for scammers was useless, so then the Demcorats came up with the Traced Act, followed by the Robocop Act, which are just rewordings of the Do Not Call Act, but with different bragging rights.

    But old people can't hear very well over the phone, and a ringing telephone is a red flag for anybody standing guard inside an old person's house, and I think that's why the scammers have evolved into USPS scams; it's more effective because old people tend to not use email notifications, and they have a regimen of going out and getting the mail, and reviewing it.

    Maybe it was just coincidence and a critical mass of people are on guard for scam calls that the call centers simply shut down due to lack of morons to fall for their scams.

    That sounds likely.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jul 22 07:20:58 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Some of the legislation was signed into law: The Do Not Call Act, which "increases penalties" for scammers was useless, so then the Demcorats
    came up with the Traced Act, followed by the Robocop Act, which are
    just rewordings of the Do Not Call Act, but with different bragging rights.

    Ahhh.. the usual "look like we are doing something" scam. They've tried that one before.

    But old people can't hear very well over the phone,

    They make amplified phones for old people. My mom has one. It's the only way she can talk on the phone.

    But she long ago got into a habit of saying "I can't understand you." and hanging up.

    telephone is a red flag for anybody standing guard inside an old
    person's house, and I think that's why the scammers have evolved into
    USPS scams; it's more effective because old people tend to not use
    email notifications, and they have a regimen of going out and getting
    the mail, and reviewing it.

    Possible. But mail scams are harder because the person has time to think and review.

    And probably already gets lots of junk mail, so the scam ends up in the bin with the rest of the junk mail.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue Jul 22 13:18:17 2025
    Some of the legislation was signed into law: The Do Not Call Act, whi "increases penalties" for scammers was useless, so then the Demcorats came up with the Traced Act, followed by the Robocop Act, which are just rewordings of the Do Not Call Act, but with different bragging rights.

    Ahhh.. the usual "look like we are doing something" scam. They've
    tried that one before.

    It works for them from time to time. The other part of the game is where they make it sound like if you're not for it then you're part of the problem.

    But old people can't hear very well over the phone,

    They make amplified phones for old people. My mom has one. It's the
    only way she can talk on the phone.

    I like how my dad don't take the calls and has me (or tries to have me) handle all his business-related calls. He's a great guy because he sees the good in people, but unfortunately he don't see the bad.

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