• Leftovers

    From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Dec 14 15:05:50 2024
    Hi Dave,

    That'll work. I printed off a lamb stew recipe from yesterday's N&O
    that I might try soon. Have to get a shoulder roast and a few other
    things but it's a do ahead and reheat recipe, good for busy days.

    Have you ever done lamb neck slices? They're tasty and, better yet,
    they are *affordable*. Unlike lamb chops - the price of which makes my throat slam shut. Bv)=

    No, not done neck slices but have done both lamb chops and lamb shanks.
    The latter we marinate in Italian dressing, coat with flour/Parm cheese
    and then braise in the dressing until they're fall off the bone tender.

    Went to the farmer's market today. Got some turnips, spinach, beets, and
    baby bok choy for veggies. Also got some sage and thyme plants (will go
    outside next spring) and a couple of baked goods--a sopapilla bar and a coissant filled with a brownie batter and baked. Had the last as part of
    lunch today afterwards. The turnips are going to go into a pot au feu
    once I get some cabbage (probably next week at Wegman's).
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Dec 16 06:07:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    That'll work. I printed off a lamb stew recipe from yesterday's N&O
    that I might try soon. Have to get a shoulder roast and a few other
    things but it's a do ahead and reheat recipe, good for busy days.

    Have you ever done lamb neck slices? They're tasty and, better yet,
    they are *affordable*. Unlike lamb chops - the price of which makes my throat slam shut. Bv)=

    No, not done neck slices but have done both lamb chops and lamb shanks. The latter we marinate in Italian dressing, coat with flour/Parm cheese and then braise in the dressing until they're fall off the bone tender.

    I've done a number of differet lamb cuts. Probably my favourite for "fancy"
    is leg-of-lamb. Or minced lamb for a *real* Shepherd's Pie.

    Went to the farmer's market today. Got some turnips, spinach, beets,
    and baby bok choy for veggies. Also got some sage and thyme plants
    (will go outside next spring) and a couple of baked goods--a sopapilla
    bar and a coissant filled with a brownie batter and baked. Had the last
    as part of lunch today afterwards. The turnips are going to go into a
    pot au feu once I get some cabbage (probably next week at Wegman's).

    I only like turnips raw and peeled, then sliced. Cooked - you are welcome
    to my share and all of my allotment of rutabagas. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: St. Louis Gooey Butter Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserts
    Yield: 18 servings

    MMMMM----------------------------CAKE---------------------------------
    3 tb (45 ml) milk; room temp
    1 3/4 ts (5 g) active dry yeast
    6 tb (85 g) unsalted butter; room
    - temp
    3 tb (45 g) sugar
    1 ts (5 g) kosher salt
    1 lg Egg
    1 3/4 c (215 g) A-P flour

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    3 tb + 1 ts (50 ml) light corn
    - syrup
    2 1/2 ts (10 ml) vanilla extract
    12 tb (170 g) unsalted butter;
    - room temp
    1 1/2 c (300 g) sugar
    1/2 ts (3 g) kosher salt
    1 lg Egg
    1 c + 3 tb (145 g) A-P flour
    Confectioners' sugar; for
    - sprinkling

    In a small bowl, mix milk with 2 tablespoons warm water.
    Add yeast and whisk gently until it dissolves. Mixture
    should foam slightly.

    Using an electric mixer with paddle attachment, cream
    butter, sugar and salt. Scrape down sides of bowl and
    beat in the egg. Alternately add flour and the milk
    mixture, scraping down sides of bowl between each
    addition. Beat dough on medium speed until it forms a
    smooth mass and pulls away from sides of bowl, 7 to 10
    minutes.

    Press dough into an ungreased 9" X 13" baking dish at
    least 2" deep. Cover dish with plastic wrap or clean tea
    towel, put in a warm place, and allow to rise until
    doubled, 2 1/2 to 3 hours.

    Set oven @ 350oF/175oC.

    TO PREPARE TOPPING, in a small bowl, mix corn syrup with
    2 tablespoons water and the vanilla. Using an electric
    mixer with paddle attachment, cream butter, sugar and
    salt until light and fluffy, 5 to 7 minutes. Scrape down
    sides of bowl and beat in the egg. Alternately add flour
    and corn syrup mixture, scraping down sides of bowl
    between each addition.

    Spoon topping in large dollops over risen cake and use a
    spatula to gently spread it in an even layer. Bake for
    35 to 45 minutes; cake will rise and fall in waves and
    have a golden brown top, but will still be liquid in
    center when done. Allow to cool in pan before sprinkling
    with confectioners' sugar for serving.

    By Melissa Clark

    Yield: 16 to 20 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Dec 16 06:24:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I use the Organic Sprinkle, 24 herbs and spices, salt free (Paul C. Bragg's original 1930 blend). Yellow top, yellow label. I might pick up
    a different one to try next time we go down to Sprouts, just to try,
    but this is my favorite for soup stock seasoning.

    OK, Thanks. Now I know what I'm looking for.

    And I might check out some of the others, in addition to the one we
    use. Do use Mrs. Dash lemon pepper on some things, usually mix some
    into chicken salad when I make it.

    I find most commercial lemon-peppers to have too much salt. I may took
    a look at Ms. Dash' ingredients panel.

    Mrs. Dash specialises in salt free seasoning mixes. Don't remember why
    I picked up the Braggs originally but it's a keeper in my spice
    cupboard now.

    Amazon is "rushing" me a shaker for delivery tomorrow. I've used other
    Bragg's stuff. Mostly the unfiltered cider vinegar that I pick up at Food Fantasies and use for fixing heartburn and reflux. It's counter-intuitive
    but it works.

    According to the forecast today (pedicted high 23F) is the last of the galloping chillblains.

    I've already made my pre-paid arrangement - right into the fire and
    the ashes into a large pickle jar to be used for traction on slick
    roads.

    We've made arraingements but not paid yet. Steve is debating a
    veteran's cemetary, free for him but a fee for me. BTW, I first heard
    of Tammy Duckworth when we were in HI; she had some connection to the state and used the first name Lada. Don't remember details tho.

    I think she may have been born in Hawaii. She certainly is a champion
    for Vets causes. And she abhors Cadet Bone Spurs.

    She does have a lot going for her. Good to see that the vets have a
    voice from somebody who served on active duty on their side.

    And it only cost her both legs and partial use of the right arm. She doest
    not suffer fools gladly. And has no use for draft dodgers.

    My store is having a Christmas Party on 16 December. I'll be taking
    this as my "covered dish":

    Title: John Wayne Tater Tot Casserole
    Categories: Chilies, Vegetables, Cheese, Dairy, Potatoes
    Yield: 6 Servings

    32 oz (2 cans) chilli w/beans
    4 tb Dairy sour cream
    15 oz Can whole kernel corn;

    Looks like it should fill a few bellies. (G)

    There will, no doubt be lots of other stuff as well.

    Not surprising. It's always interesting to see the assortment at a pot luck. Our Legion post and Auxiliary always do a pot luck in late
    January or early February--too much going on in December so it's nice
    to have a joint dinner when things have calmed down a bit. There's a
    group of vets over at the post today watching the Army-Navy game but we took a pass on that gathering.

    For breakfast on the 25th I'm sponsoring any of my family/extended
    family to the Interfaith Breakfast held annually at Temple B'rith
    Sholom. Then off to brother's with the roast. Bv)=

    I'll miss the green chile that my recently deceased friend Les used to provie to put over the scrambled eggs.

    Did he leave the recipe with his widow?

    Dunno. But. I have it in my database. It's a pretty standard Verde that
    used ground poultry instead of the ore usual pork - which ain't no way
    "Kosher" and the event is at a Jewsh facility.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Slow Cooker Chicken Chile Verde (Temple)
    Categories: Poultry, Chilies, Citrus, Herbs
    Yield: 7 Servings

    2 lb Tomatillos; husked, washed,
    - dried, halved
    10 md Anaheim chilies; stemmed,
    - halved, seeded
    1 Jalapeno chile
    1 c Diced onion
    4 cl Garlic
    2 c Rough chopped cilantro
    1 tb Cumin
    1 ts Paprika
    Zest and juice of 1 lime
    1/2 ts Sugar
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    2 c Chicken broth
    2 lb Chicken; skinned, boned
    +=OR=+
    2 lb Ground chicken or turkey

    MMMMM-----------------------ACCOMPANIMENTS----------------------------
    Tortillas
    Beans
    Rice

    Set oven @ 450oF/232oC.

    In a skillet cook the ground meat until it no longer
    clumps together. Don't worry about getting it "done"
    as that will be taken care of in the crockpot.

    Place tomatillos and Anaheim peppers on two large greased
    baking sheets. Roast until tomatillos are golden brown
    about 5-7 minutes, and until peppers are charred.

    Place peppers in a brown paper bag to sweat for about
    ten minutes. Remove the peppers from the bag and peel.

    In a blender or food processor, combine 6 peppers (12
    pepper halves), tomatillos, jalapenos, onion, garlic,
    cilantro, cumin, paprika, lime zest and juice, sugar,
    and salt & pepper to taste. Blend until smooth.

    Dice the remaining Anaheim peppers. Pour salsa verde,
    chicken broth, diced Anaheim peppers, and meat into the
    slow cooker. Add salt and pepper.

    Cook on high for 3-4 hours or on low for 6-8 hours.

    Serve warm with tortillas, beans, and rice.

    Or serve spooned over breakfast eggs. (and potatoes)

    YIELD: SERVES 6-8 as a dish. Many more as a topping.

    RECIPE ADAPTED FROM: http://www.twopeasandtheirpod.com
    By Les Eastep

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 16 15:09:00 2024
    Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    Amazon is "rushing" me a shaker for delivery tomorrow. I've used other Bragg's stuff. Mostly the unfiltered cider vinegar that I pick up at
    Food Fantasies and use for fixing heartburn and reflux. It's counter-intuitive but it works.

    Here is a great video explaining why apple cider voinegar does what it does
    and nine major benefits from drinking it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTzxfoL82n8

    For the stomach stuff, like you, I take it to control heartburn (I do not
    have an ulcer, I was told recently). I do take ACV tablets from the Vitamin Shoppe but if I do drink the real thing, I prefer Whitehouse brand as it has
    a little reasidual sugar in it, making to easier to stomach than Bragg's for me.

    8 snip 8<

    Re: veterans' burials

    I have made arrangements with the National Cemetary System to be buried here
    at the Mountain Home national cemetary, the same place where my grandfather,
    a WW2 vet, my grandmother, and my late uncle (he was depoendent on them) are all interred at a beautiful mausoleum. My stepfather, mother and I will all
    be buried there also. I take comfort knowing that my family and I will all
    be laid to rest in the same place.

    It's not a fun thing to think about but an important one. As soon as I can afford it, I'll be getting burial insurance just in case I go before my
    parents (an even more unpleasant thought but after my heart issues, a very
    real possibility but I hope not!).

    The good thing is that we're all still alive and mostly well.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bob Evans Sausage Cups
    Categories: Loo, Snacks, Pork, Sausage
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Bob Evans Original Sausage
    Roll
    1 pk Won Ton Wrappers
    1 c Monterey Jack Cheese,
    Shredded
    1 c Cheddar Cheese, shredded
    1/2 c Ranch Dressing

    Preheat oven to 350F. Crumble sausage into medium skillet. Cook over
    medium heat until lightly browned, stirring occasionally. Drain.
    Spray mini muffin tins and insert won ton wrappers to form a small
    cup. Bake 5 minutes. Allow wrappers to cool. Mix sausage, cheeses,
    and ranch dressing together. Fill won ton wrappers. Bake for 10 min
    until bubbly.

    bobevans.com From: Michael Loo Date: 01-21-09

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 16 14:23:48 2024
    Hi Dave,


    No, not done neck slices but have done both lamb chops and lamb shanks. The latter we marinate in Italian dressing, coat with flour/Parm cheese and then braise in the dressing until they're fall off the bone tender.

    I've done a number of differet lamb cuts. Probably my favourite for "fancy" is leg-of-lamb. Or minced lamb for a *real* Shepherd's Pie.

    Shepherd's pie sounds good. I can remember my mom making it maybe once
    or twice, as the family grew, left overs for something like that were
    more scarce. Especially after my younger brother was born; he had an
    adult sized appetite as soon as he started solid food.


    Went to the farmer's market today. Got some turnips, spinach, beets,
    and baby bok choy for veggies. Also got some sage and thyme plants
    (will go outside next spring) and a couple of baked goods--a sopapilla
    bar and a coissant filled with a brownie batter and baked. Had the last
    as part of lunch today afterwards. The turnips are going to go into a
    pot au feu once I get some cabbage (probably next week at Wegman's).

    I only like turnips raw and peeled, then sliced. Cooked - you are
    welcome to my share and all of my allotment of rutabagas. Bv)=

    They're not as strong in a beef stew or p-a-f. I was going to only get a
    couple but they weighed less than a pound, total so the vendor threw in
    another one to bring it to over a pound, then charged me for only one
    pound, even. I've been buying from him for years now; that's typical for
    him, for anybody.
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Dec 18 05:30:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    No, not done neck slices but have done both lamb chops and lamb shanks. The latter we marinate in Italian dressing, coat with flour/Parm cheese and then braise in the dressing until they're fall off the bone tender.

    I've done a number of differet lamb cuts. Probably my favourite for "fancy" is leg-of-lamb. Or minced lamb for a *real* Shepherd's Pie.

    Shepherd's pie sounds good. I can remember my mom making it maybe once
    or twice, as the family grew, left overs for something like that were
    more scarce. Especially after my younger brother was born; he had an
    adult sized appetite as soon as he started solid food.

    If it has sheep meat it is Shepherd's Pie. Any other meat makes it a
    Cottage Pie. I grump at restaurants that get it wrong.

    Went to the farmer's market today. Got some turnips, spinach, beets,
    and baby bok choy for veggies. Also got some sage and thyme plants
    (will go outside next spring) and a couple of baked goods--a sopapilla
    bar and a coissant filled with a brownie batter and baked. Had the last
    as part of lunch today afterwards. The turnips are going to go into a
    pot au feu once I get some cabbage (probably next week at Wegman's).

    I only like turnips raw and peeled, then sliced. Cooked - you are
    welcome to my share and all of my allotment of rutabagas. Bv)=

    They're not as strong in a beef stew or p-a-f. I was going to only get
    a couple but they weighed less than a pound, total so the vendor threw
    in another one to bring it to over a pound, then charged me for only
    one pound, even. I've been buying from him for years now; that's
    typical for him, for anybody.

    Enjoy! Once upon a time, when I was a pre-teen the family was travelling
    to the south part of the state to visit some of my mother's relatives.
    On the way there she instructed us "No matter what is served you *will*
    take a helping and eat it! Without makig faces or comments."

    The aunties we visited first servrd, as part of the lunch, boiled and
    buttered sliced turnips. Which we knew Mom abhorred. My sister and I
    kept passing her the serving dish and saying "Have some m ore of these
    nice turnips, Mom. They're great." Bv)=

    I may have told that story here before. But it's still funny.

    Whilst I don't care for the roots - the greens are a different story:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: African Turnip Greens
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Greens, Nuts
    Yield: 1 Recipe

    Lots of greens; chopped
    - coarse
    Peanut butter; smooth or
    - chunky (enough to make a
    - nice sauce when melted)
    Lots of garlic; minced
    Your choice of heat (enough
    - to make you call for your
    - Mama)

    Rinse greens. Simmer in pot. When there's enough liquid to
    melt the peanut butter stir it in until it's all blended.

    Add garlic and your choice of heat. Simmmer for an hour or
    two until the greens are cooked to rags, stirring
    occasionally and adding a little water if needed to keep
    them from drying out and/or sticking.

    Serve with boiled potatoes or some other starch. Yummy.

    From: Kay Buie - 02 Aug 97 - Chile-Heads List

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Dec 18 05:52:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Amazon is "rushing" me a shaker for delivery tomorrow. I've used other Bragg's stuff. Mostly the unfiltered cider vinegar that I pick up at
    Food Fantasies and use for fixing heartburn and reflux. It's counter-intuitive but it works.

    I've used Bragg's and other unfiltered cider vinegar. I keep some on
    hand for things like salad dressing and such like, when I want to kick
    it up a bit from the regular cider vinegar.

    I'm not a fan of vinegar bsased slad dressing. Much prefer my salads and/or cole slaw with a creamy sauce as a dressing.

    of Tammy Duckworth when we were in HI; she had some connection to the state and used the first name Lada. Don't remember details tho.

    I think she may have been born in Hawaii. She certainly is a champion
    for Vets causes. And she abhors Cadet Bone Spurs.

    She does have a lot going for her. Good to see that the vets have a
    voice from somebody who served on active duty on their side.

    And it only cost her both legs and partial use of the right arm. She
    doest not suffer fools gladly. And has no use for draft dodgers.

    And was the first senator to bring her baby on the floor with her so
    she could nurse.

    Which isn't too surprising considering that not many senators are ladies
    and few of those of child-baring years.

    My store is having a Christmas Party on 16 December. I'll be taking
    this as my "covered dish":

    Looks like it should fill a few bellies. (G)

    There will, no doubt be lots of other stuff as well.

    Not surprising. It's always interesting to see the assortment at a pot luck. Our Legion post and Auxiliary always do a pot luck in late
    January or early February--too much going on in December so it's nice
    to have a joint dinner when things have calmed down a bit. There's a
    group of vets over at the post today watching the Army-Navy game but we took a pass on that gathering.

    For breakfast on the 25th I'm sponsoring any of my family/extended
    family to the Interfaith Breakfast held annually at Temple B'rith
    Sholom. Then off to brother's with the roast. Bv)=

    I'll miss the green chile that my recently deceased friend Les used to provie to put over the scrambled eggs.

    Did he leave the recipe with his widow?

    Dunno. But. I have it in my database. It's a pretty standard Verde
    that used ground poultry instead of the ore usual pork - which ain't
    no way "Kosher" and the event is at a Jewsh facility.

    So make up a batch, bring it and label it "in memory of Les".

    Won't have to. Les' kid brother Larry will be in town taking care of
    some things for the estate. And he'll be making the Verde. And he is
    the ICS World Champion this year in Verde.

    I had something very much like this in my first experience with chile
    verde. I was in Inglewood, Californa at a Mexican sit-down restaurant.
    My mind told me that rojo meant red and indicated "hot". While verde
    was green and should be mild. Hoooo Boy! was I wrong!!!! Lit me up.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Navajo Chile Verde (Lamb/Goat)
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Chilies, Pork, Vegetables
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb Lamb or goat shoulder
    2 c Stewed tomatoes
    3 tb Bacon grease
    6 oz Can tomato paste
    1/3 c Flour
    3 c Water (or chicken broth)
    3 md Onions; chopped
    2 1/2 ts Salt
    6 cl Garlic; minced or pressed
    1/2 ts Dried, ground oregano
    32 oz (2 cans) whole green chilies

    Melt bacon grease in a skillet over med-high heat. Put
    flour into a paper bag and shake the meat with the flour
    to coat meat. Add the meat to the bacon grease a little
    at a time and brown well & evenly. Remove the meat to a
    5 qt. Dutch oven. Add the onions & garlic to the skillet
    and saute until translucent. Add these to the pork in
    the pot. Stir in the remaining ingredients, bring pot to
    a boil, and keep stirring every 2-3 minutes. When boiling
    lower heat to low & simmer for 45 minutes. Taste, adjust
    seasonings as per personal taste, and cook for 30 mins.

    This recipe comes to us from the Native Americans we call
    the Navajo. They call themselves the Di-neh. It is a great
    stew and deserves your attention!

    Enjoy!

    Source: Mary R. Neh, Economist, Navajo Cultural Center File

    Meal Master Format by Dave Drum - 02 November 1996

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Dec 18 15:11:02 2024
    Hi Dave,On (18 Dec 24) Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly...


    I've done a number of differet lamb cuts. Probably my favourite for "fancy" is leg-of-lamb. Or minced lamb for a *real* Shepherd's Pie.

    Shepherd's pie sounds good. I can remember my mom making it maybe once
    or twice, as the family grew, left overs for something like that were
    more scarce. Especially after my younger brother was born; he had an
    adult sized appetite as soon as he started solid food.

    If it has sheep meat it is Shepherd's Pie. Any other meat makes it a Cottage Pie. I grump at restaurants that get it wrong.

    I know, I don't remember which meat my mom used. Could have been left
    over lamb; her mother cooked it fairly often for Sunday dinners when we visited. Mom may have taken leftovers home and made the pie.


    Went to the farmer's market today. Got some turnips, spinach, beets,
    and baby bok choy for veggies. Also got some sage and thyme plants
    (will go outside next spring) and a couple of baked goods--a sopapilla
    bar and a coissant filled with a brownie batter and baked. Had the last
    as part of lunch today afterwards. The turnips are going to go into a
    pot au feu once I get some cabbage (probably next week at Wegman's).

    I only like turnips raw and peeled, then sliced. Cooked - you are
    welcome to my share and all of my allotment of rutabagas. Bv)=

    They're not as strong in a beef stew or p-a-f. I was going to only get
    a couple but they weighed less than a pound, total so the vendor threw
    in another one to bring it to over a pound, then charged me for only
    one pound, even. I've been buying from him for years now; that's
    typical for him, for anybody.

    The pot-au-feu is on the stove as I write. Meat is cooking now, in a bit
    I'll add potatoes, carrots, bok choy and turnips.

    Enjoy! Once upon a time, when I was a pre-teen the family was DD>
    travelling to the south part of the state to visit some of my mother's
    relatives. DD> On the way there she instructed us "No matter what
    is served you DD> *will* take a helping and eat it! Without makig faces
    or comments."

    The aunties we visited first servrd, as part of the lunch, boiled and buttered sliced turnips. Which we knew Mom abhorred. My sister and I
    kept passing her the serving dish and saying "Have some m ore of these nice turnips, Mom. They're great." Bv)=

    I may have told that story here before. But it's still funny.

    You have, and it still gets a giggle. (G)
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Dec 18 15:15:23 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I've used Bragg's and other unfiltered cider vinegar. I keep some on
    hand for things like salad dressing and such like, when I want to kick
    it up a bit from the regular cider vinegar.

    I'm not a fan of vinegar bsased slad dressing. Much prefer my salads and/or cole slaw with a creamy sauce as a dressing.

    I prefer 1,000 Islands but Steve's mom has always done a home made Italian-ish--just oil, vinegar and seasonings. I've done it myself quite
    a bit because it is Steve's favorite. Just pour everything on the salad (guess-timate amounts) and mix.


    of Tammy Duckworth when we were in HI; she had some connection to the state and used the first name Lada. Don't remember details tho.

    I think she may have been born in Hawaii. She certainly is a champion
    for Vets causes. And she abhors Cadet Bone Spurs.

    She does have a lot going for her. Good to see that the vets have a
    voice from somebody who served on active duty on their side.

    And it only cost her both legs and partial use of the right arm. She
    doest not suffer fools gladly. And has no use for draft dodgers.

    And was the first senator to bring her baby on the floor with her so
    she could nurse.

    Which isn't too surprising considering that not many senators are
    ladies and few of those of child-baring years.

    Time was, the government had no ladies in it. Glad that has changed but
    I'm not a fan of a number of women now serving.

    My store is having a Christmas Party on 16 December. I'll be taking
    this as my "covered dish":

    Looks like it should fill a few bellies. (G)

    There will, no doubt be lots of other stuff as well.

    Not surprising. It's always interesting to see the assortment at a pot luck. Our Legion post and Auxiliary always do a pot luck in late
    January or early February--too much going on in December so it's nice
    to have a joint dinner when things have calmed down a bit. There's a
    group of vets over at the post today watching the Army-Navy game but we took a pass on that gathering.

    For breakfast on the 25th I'm sponsoring any of my family/extended
    family to the Interfaith Breakfast held annually at Temple B'rith
    Sholom. Then off to brother's with the roast. Bv)=

    I'll miss the green chile that my recently deceased friend Les used to provie to put over the scrambled eggs.

    Did he leave the recipe with his widow?

    Dunno. But. I have it in my database. It's a pretty standard Verde
    that used ground poultry instead of the ore usual pork - which ain't
    no way "Kosher" and the event is at a Jewsh facility.

    So make up a batch, bring it and label it "in memory of Les".

    Won't have to. Les' kid brother Larry will be in town taking care of
    some things for the estate. And he'll be making the Verde. And he is
    the ICS World Champion this year in Verde.

    OK, so it is covered. Good.


    I had something very much like this in my first experience with chile verde. I was in Inglewood, Californa at a Mexican sit-down restaurant.
    My mind told me that rojo meant red and indicated "hot". While verde
    was green and should be mild. Hoooo Boy! was I wrong!!!! Lit me up.

    Steve and I went to a little place in Las Cruces,NM, once on our way
    back to AZ from a trip to El Paso. I ordered something green, thinking
    it would be mild; Steve ordered something red, thinking it to be on the
    warm side. Somebody mixed up the heat level--mine was hot but Steve's
    was mild. They were both good tho. (G)
    ---
    Catch you later,
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Dec 20 05:59:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,On (18 Dec 24) Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly...


    I've done a number of differet lamb cuts. Probably my favourite for "fancy" is leg-of-lamb. Or minced lamb for a *real* Shepherd's Pie.

    Shepherd's pie sounds good. I can remember my mom making it maybe once
    or twice, as the family grew, left overs for something like that were
    more scarce. Especially after my younger brother was born; he had an
    adult sized appetite as soon as he started solid food.

    If it has sheep meat it is Shepherd's Pie. Any other meat makes it a Cottage Pie. I grump at restaurants that get it wrong.

    I know, I don't remember which meat my mom used. Could have been left
    over lamb; her mother cooked it fairly often for Sunday dinners when we visited. Mom may have taken leftovers home and made the pie.

    That's just one of my "pet peeves" about recipes. Words mean things. It
    costs nothing to be accurate. If I get an otherwise nice recipe labelled "Shepherd's Pie" and made w/beefor any non-sheep meat I'll asterisk the
    title and explain in the text portion.

    I'm the same way with calls for "Swiss cheese". Usually it's obvious
    that the call is for the pale yellow cheese w/large holes - Ementhal.
    So I correct the ingredients. There are several varieties of cheese
    which call Switzerland home - Gouda, Raclette, Scharfe Maxx, Le Marechal, Tilsiter, and Vacherin. There are more, but you get the idea. (I hope)

    And don't get me started on capitalisation of Cheddar - which is a proper
    noun. Bv)=

    These are *really good*

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Thanksgiving Leftovers Hot Pockets
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Dairy, Cheese, Poultry
    Yield: 6 Pockets

    A-P flour; for surfaces
    1 lb Homemade or store-bought
    - pizza dough, divided in
    - 6 even balls (see Tip)
    Leftover stuffing
    Leftover roasted or mashed
    - sweet potatoes
    Leftover roast turkey;
    - shredded
    Leftover cranberry sauce
    Leftover gravy
    1 tb Heavy cream or milk
    Shredded Parmesan
    +=OR=+
    3 sl Ementhal* or Cheddar; each
    - cut into two rectangles

    * AKA "Swiss Cheese"

    Lightly flour a work surface and lay the 6 dough balls
    out on top. Dust with flour and cover with a clean
    kitchen towel. Allow the dough balls to rest at room
    temperature until easy to stretch, about 45 minutes.

    Adjust an oven rack to the center position and heat oven
    to 425ºF/218ºC. Working 1 at a time and leaving the rest
    covered as you work, roll and stretch each ball of dough
    into a circle about 7 inches in diameter.

    Working with 1 circle at a time, layer a total 1 cup of
    leftovers in a log about 2" wide and 5" long down the
    center: Start with a layer of stuffing, which absorbs
    the juices as the pockets bake, then add vegetables,
    turkey, cranberry sauce and gravy. Do not overstuff.

    Fold the top and bottom of the dough over the ends of
    the log. Lift the right side over the log, stretching it
    a little to completely cover the filling while making
    sure the top and bottom stay tucked in. Fold the left
    side over and repeat. You should end up with a neat
    package about the size of a Chinese egg roll. Repeat
    with the remaining dough circles and filling.

    Transfer the pockets seam side down to a parchment-lined
    rimmed baking sheet. Combine the heavy cream or milk
    with 2 tablespoons of leftover gravy (if you have any)
    and brush the pockets with the mixture. (You can use
    plain heavy cream or milk if you do not have any
    leftover gravy.) Use a sharp knife to cut three slits on
    the top of the pockets for ventilation. Sprinkle the
    pockets with a dusting of shredded Parmesan or lay a
    half slice of Swiss or Cheddar on top of each one.

    Bake until deep golden brown, 12 to 18 minutes. Serve
    immediately with extra gravy and cranberry sauce for
    spooning or dipping. You can also refrigerate the cooked
    pockets and reheat them in a toaster oven, about 7
    minutes at 425ºF/218ºC.

    TIP: You can also use canned pizza dough or thawed
    frozen puff pastry for this. Divide and roll the dough
    into 6 (7" by 6") rectangles. When forming the pockets,
    fold one side over the other and crimp the edges with a
    fork to seal. Bake as directed.

    By: J. Kenji Lopez-Alt

    Yield: 6 pockets

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Dec 20 06:26:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've used Bragg's and other unfiltered cider vinegar. I keep some on
    hand for things like salad dressing and such like, when I want to kick
    it up a bit from the regular cider vinegar.

    I'm not a fan of vinegar based slad dressing. Much prefer my salads
    and/or cole slaw with a creamy sauce as a dressing.

    I prefer 1,000 Islands but Steve's mom has always done a home made Italian-ish--just oil, vinegar and seasonings. I've done it myself
    quite a bit because it is Steve's favorite. Just pour everything on the salad (guess-timate amounts) and mix.

    Thousand is OK on a Big Mac. Or w/shaved Gorgonzola cheese. But I like a
    nice creamy ranch, buttermilk, blue cheese, or even Russian (California) dressing. Especially w/bacn bits.

    of Tammy Duckworth when we were in HI; she had some connection to the state and used the first name Lada. Don't remember details tho.

    I think she may have been born in Hawaii. She certainly is a champion
    for Vets causes. And she abhors Cadet Bone Spurs.

    She does have a lot going for her. Good to see that the vets have a
    voice from somebody who served on active duty on their side.

    And it only cost her both legs and partial use of the right arm. She
    doest not suffer fools gladly. And has no use for draft dodgers.

    And was the first senator to bring her baby on the floor with her so
    she could nurse.

    Which isn't too surprising considering that not many senators are
    ladies and few of those of child-baring years.

    Time was, the government had no ladies in it. Glad that has changed but I'm not a fan of a number of women now serving.

    Nancy who?

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I had something very much like this in my first experience with chile verde. I was in Inglewood, Californa at a Mexican sit-down restaurant.
    My mind told me that rojo meant red and indicated "hot". While verde
    was green and should be mild. Hoooo Boy! was I wrong!!!! Lit me up.

    Steve and I went to a little place in Las Cruces,NM, once on our way
    back to AZ from a trip to El Paso. I ordered something green, thinking
    it would be mild; Steve ordered something red, thinking it to be on the warm side. Somebody mixed up the heat level--mine was hot but Steve's
    was mild. They were both good tho. (G)

    I got a pretty good culinary education when I moved to Californica.
    Found the El Mexico cafe where I was one of the few Gringos. And The
    House of Yee (Cantonese Chinese) where, apparently no one in the kitchen
    spoke American) I started at the top of the menu and worked my way down.
    Noting 'repeaters" as I went. The J.B.'s Little Bali where I was introduced
    to the 50+ course Rijsttafel - more a Dutch thing. Each "course" was 2 tb
    or less of a different flavour/dish. And rice. Lots and lots of rice.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Rijsttafel
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Rice
    Yield: 7 Servings

    3 lb (2) roasting chickens;
    - skinned, cubed, (reserve
    - livers & hearts)
    3 tb Oil
    2 tb Madras curry powder
    4 lg Onions; sliced
    1 tb Fresh ginger; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; chopped
    2 Bell peppers; chopped
    1 lg Red bell pepper; chopped
    1/2 ts Turmeric
    1 pt Chicken stock
    1 lg Cucumber; sliced 1" rounds
    1 tb Lemon juice
    1 tb Flour
    1/4 c Milk
    2 tb Currants
    Salt & pepper
    Fried rice; to serve

    Heat the oil in a large pan and stir in the curry powder,
    add the chicken and brown it.

    Add the onions, garlic, peppers, ginger and turmeric.Fry
    for 2 minutes.

    Add the chicken livers and hearts to the pan with the
    currants, cover with the stock. Cook till the meat is
    tender.

    Add the cucumber and lemon juice, cook till the cucumber
    is tender.

    In a small pan mix the flour and milk together, to make a
    paste. Strain the cooking liquid from the chicken onto the
    flour/milk mix and cook till thickened. If the mix is too
    thick, add a little milk.

    Add this to the chicken.

    Stir to combine the chicken and vegetables with the
    thickened stock and cook on low heat for 5 minutes.

    Season with the salt and pepper to taste.

    Serves 6 - 8

    "This recipe is a simplified version of the famous
    RIJSTTAFEL given to me by a friend from Holland where it
    is a very popular dish. Quite a lot of meat here so serve
    with fried rice, good party dish."

    By Brian Holley

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.food.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Dec 20 21:30:19 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Later than usual getting around to doing my Fido. We wee down in Cary
    for a radio gathering/lunch and visits to a quilt shop & Bass Pro Shop.
    Came home, did laundry, had supper, etc.

    If it has sheep meat it is Shepherd's Pie. Any other meat makes it
    a DD> Cottage Pie. I grump at restaurants that get it wrong.

    I know, I don't remember which meat my mom used. Could have been left
    over lamb; her mother cooked it fairly often for Sunday dinners when we visited. Mom may have taken leftovers home and made the pie.

    That's just one of my "pet peeves" about recipes. Words mean things.
    It costs nothing to be accurate. If I get an otherwise nice recipe labelled "Shepherd's Pie" and made w/beefor any non-sheep meat I'll asterisk the title and explain in the text portion.

    May as well, at least you know with the * that it's not likely to be
    authentic.


    I'm the same way with calls for "Swiss cheese". Usually it's obvious
    that the call is for the pale yellow cheese w/large holes - Ementhal.
    So I correct the ingredients. There are several varieties of cheese
    which call Switzerland home - Gouda, Raclette, Scharfe Maxx, Le
    Marechal, Tilsiter, and Vacherin. There are more, but you get the
    idea. (I hope)

    I know; I generally use the proper names, tho don't always capitalise
    them, for cheeses. One of my favorites, a cave aged Gruyere, I've only
    found at Whole Foods. Stopped into the Raleigh one a few weeks ago,
    couldn't find what I wanted (looked like it may have been discontinued)
    but walked out with a block of the C-A-G and various small pieces of
    cheese from their small samples box.

    And don't get me started on capitalisation of Cheddar - which is a
    proper noun. Bv)=

    Sigh!
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Dec 20 21:41:32 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I'm not a fan of vinegar based slad dressing. Much prefer my salads
    and/or cole slaw with a creamy sauce as a dressing.

    I prefer 1,000 Islands but Steve's mom has always done a home made Italian-ish--just oil, vinegar and seasonings. I've done it myself
    quite a bit because it is Steve's favorite. Just pour everything on the salad (guess-timate amounts) and mix.

    Thousand is OK on a Big Mac. Or w/shaved Gorgonzola cheese. But I like
    a nice creamy ranch, buttermilk, blue cheese, or even Russian
    (California) dressing. Especially w/bacn bits.

    I'll go for Russian but do not care for the strong bleu cheese type
    dressing. I'll eat ranch if nothing else is available or alternatives
    are worse, same with french. Bacon inproves almost everything but it
    won't help bleu cheese, IMO.


    of Tammy Duckworth when we were in HI; she had some connection to the state and used the first name Lada. Don't remember details tho.

    Which isn't too surprising considering that not many senators are
    ladies and few of those of child-baring years.

    Time was, the government had no ladies in it. Glad that has changed but I'm not a fan of a number of women now serving.

    Nancy who?

    Also AO-() and others of her squid.


    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I had something very much like this in my first experience with chile verde. I was in Inglewood, Californa at a Mexican sit-down restaurant.
    My mind told me that rojo meant red and indicated "hot". While verde
    was green and should be mild. Hoooo Boy! was I wrong!!!! Lit me up.

    Steve and I went to a little place in Las Cruces,NM, once on our way
    back to AZ from a trip to El Paso. I ordered something green, thinking
    it would be mild; Steve ordered something red, thinking it to be on the warm side. Somebody mixed up the heat level--mine was hot but Steve's
    was mild. They were both good tho. (G)

    I got a pretty good culinary education when I moved to Californica.
    Found the El Mexico cafe where I was one of the few Gringos. And The

    One of our favorite places in Savannah was a small Mexican place where
    most of its patronage were non English speakers of the blue collar
    working group. Haven't found any place like that in WF but there is
    (don't know if the other has re-opened) at least one good Mexican place.


    House of Yee (Cantonese Chinese) where, apparently no one in the
    kitchen spoke American) I started at the top of the menu and worked my
    way down. Noting 'repeaters" as I went. The J.B.'s Little Bali where I

    We've been doing Chinese more as a Friday night take out since we've
    been here. A little (maybe 6 tables) place opened up about the same time
    as we moved to WF; we've patronised them, trying others but coming back
    to this place. Usually do Korean as a sit down, tried a seafood
    "casserole" last time at one place but we agreed that it wasn't going to
    be a repeat.

    was introduced to the 50+ course Rijsttafel - more a Dutch thing. Each "course" was 2 tb or less of a different flavour/dish. And rice. Lots
    and lots of rice.

    Interesting, did you count the # of courses you had?
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Dec 22 05:26:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm not a fan of vinegar based slad dressing. Much prefer my salads
    and/or cole slaw with a creamy sauce as a dressing.

    I prefer 1,000 Islands but Steve's mom has always done a home made Italian-ish--just oil, vinegar and seasonings. I've done it myself
    quite a bit because it is Steve's favorite. Just pour everything on the salad (guess-timate amounts) and mix.

    Thousand is OK on a Big Mac. Or w/shaved Gorgonzola cheese. But I like
    a nice creamy ranch, buttermilk, blue cheese, or even Russian
    (California) dressing. Especially w/bacn bits.

    I'll go for Russian but do not care for the strong bleu cheese type dressing. I'll eat ranch if nothing else is available or alternatives
    are worse, same with french. Bacon inproves almost everything but it
    won't help bleu cheese, IMO.

    I, on the other hoof, really like the blue veined cheeses and their acrid bite. I'll do ranch if there is plenty of fresh ground pepper to "wake
    it up". Otherwise it's pretty bland.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I had something very much like this in my first experience with chile verde. I was in Inglewood, Californa at a Mexican sit-down restaurant.
    My mind told me that rojo meant red and indicated "hot". While verde
    was green and should be mild. Hoooo Boy! was I wrong!!!! Lit me up.

    Steve and I went to a little place in Las Cruces, NM, once on our way
    back to AZ from a trip to El Paso. I ordered something green, thinking
    it would be mild; Steve ordered something red, thinking it to be on the warm side. Somebody mixed up the heat level--mine was hot but Steve's
    was mild. They were both good tho. (G)

    I used to stop in Lost Crutches when I was trucking. Get off of I-40 at Amarillo and set off diagonally on US 50 past White Sands to pick up I-10
    at Las Cruces. The Petro truck-em-up stop always had good grub.

    I got a pretty good culinary education when I moved to Californica.
    Found the El Mexico cafe where I was one of the few Gringos. And The

    One of our favorite places in Savannah was a small Mexican place where most of its patronage were non English speakers of the blue collar
    working group. Haven't found any place like that in WF but there is
    (don't know if the other has re-opened) at least one good Mexican
    place.

    House of Yee (Cantonese Chinese) where, apparently no one in the
    kitchen spoke American) I started at the top of the menu and worked my
    way down. Noting 'repeaters" as I went. The J.B.'s Little Bali where I

    We've been doing Chinese more as a Friday night take out since we've
    been here. A little (maybe 6 tables) place opened up about the same
    time as we moved to WF; we've patronised them, trying others but coming back to this place. Usually do Korean as a sit down, tried a seafood "casserole" last time at one place but we agreed that it wasn't going
    to be a repeat.

    I like a few Korean dishes. But on the most part I prefer one of the Chinese regional cuisines. Or the Thai non-incendiary stuff. Some heat is alright.
    But lets not get stupid about it. Bv)=

    was introduced to the 50+ course Rijsttafel - more a Dutch thing. Each "course" was 2 tb or less of a different flavour/dish. And rice. Lots
    and lots of rice.

    Interesting, did you count the # of courses you had?

    Lost track after 20 or so. Bv)= It was culinary overload.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pad Thai
    Categories: Oriental, Pasta, Vegetables, Nuts
    Yield: 2 Servings

    8 oz Rice vermicelli *
    6 cl Garlic; fine chopped
    2 tb Chopped shallot
    1/4 c Dried shrimp; rolled, or
    - roughly pounded w/mortar
    - & pestle to break them up
    1/4 c Fish sauce
    1/4 c Palm sugar
    3 tb Tamarind juice
    3 tb Chopped, pickled radish;
    - (mooli)
    1 md Egg; beaten
    1/4 c Chopped chives
    1/2 c Roasted peanuts; very
    - coarsely broken up.
    1 c Bean sprouts

    MMMMM--------------------------PROTEIN-------------------------------
    1/2 c Fried tofu marinated in
    - dark sweet soy
    +=OR=+
    1/2 c Pork; coarse chopped
    +=OR=+
    1/2 c Chicken; coarse chopped

    * Either the sen mee or the sen lek style of Thai noodles
    or indeed any rice noodles will do). These should be
    soaked for a short while (perhaps 30 minutes to an hour,
    depending on the brand of noodles) until soft.

    Heat a little cooking oil in a wok and add the garlic and
    shallots, and briefly stir fry until they just shows signs
    of changing colour. Add the remaining ingredients except
    the egg and the bean sprouts, and stir fry until the
    protein ingredient is nearly cooked.

    Continuing to stir with one hand, slowly "drizzle" in the
    beaten egg to form a fine ribbon of cooked egg (if you
    don't feel confident with this make an egg crepe
    separately, and then roll it up and slice it into 1/4"
    wide pieces, which you add to the mix at this point).

    Finally, add the bean sprouts and cook for no more than
    another 30 seconds. Remove from the pan to a serving
    platter. Garnish

    Mix a tablespoon of lime juice with a tablespoon of
    tamarind juice and a tablespoon of fish sauce, and use
    this to marinade half a cup of uncooked bean sprouts, half
    a cup of chopped chives, and half a cup of very coarsely
    ground roasted peanuts. Sprinkle this mixture on the
    cooked pad thai.

    Cut several limes into segments and also slice up some
    cucumber into rounds then halve the rounds. Put the lime
    segments and cuke segments around the serving platter.

    You can also sprinkle a quarter of a sliced up banana
    flower and some Indian Pennywort leaves over the top as
    edible decoration.

    Pad Thai is served as above, but Thais add copious amounts
    of the four basic condiments (chilies in fish sauce, ground
    dried red chile, sugar and crushed peanuts) at the table,
    to suit their individual predelictions.

    Special thanks to - Muoi Khuntilanont.

    From: http://www.http://www.chetbacon.com/thai-html/

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Dec 22 05:54:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Later than usual getting around to doing my Fido. We wee down in Cary
    for a radio gathering/lunch and visits to a quilt shop & Bass Pro Shop. Came home, did laundry, had supper, etc.

    Sometimes life intrudes upon our plans.

    If it has sheep meat it is Shepherd's Pie. Any other meat makes it
    a DD> Cottage Pie. I grump at restaurants that get it wrong.

    I know, I don't remember which meat my mom used. Could have been left
    over lamb; her mother cooked it fairly often for Sunday dinners when we visited. Mom may have taken leftovers home and made the pie.

    That's just one of my "pet peeves" about recipes. Words mean things.
    It costs nothing to be accurate. If I get an otherwise nice recipe labelled "Shepherd's Pie" and made w/beef or any non-sheep meat I'll asterisk the title and explain in the text portion.

    May as well, at least you know with the * that it's not likely to be authentic.

    More in the (probably forlorn) hope that people reading it will begin to
    pay 'tention to the realities of life.

    I'm the same way with calls for "Swiss cheese". Usually it's obvious
    that the call is for the pale yellow cheese w/large holes - Ementhal.
    So I correct the ingredients. There are several varieties of cheese
    which call Switzerland home - Gouda, Raclette, Scharfe Maxx, Le
    Marechal, Tilsiter, and Vacherin. There are more, but you get the
    idea. (I hope)

    I know; I generally use the proper names, tho don't always capitalise them, for cheeses. One of my favorites, a cave aged Gruyere, I've only found at Whole Foods. Stopped into the Raleigh one a few weeks ago, couldn't find what I wanted (looked like it may have been discontinued) but walked out with a block of the C-A-G and various small pieces of cheese from their small samples box.

    If a cheese is named for a place or a person it *should* be capitalised. Cheddar is an actual village in Somerset, UK. But blue cheese is OK in
    lower case as it's not a place or person name. Unlike its close cousins Roquefort or Stilton. Bv)=

    I was at Hy-Vee (recently named the #1 grocery chain in USA by USA Today/ Gannett) to pick up some thick pork loin chops for stuffing and I wandered
    past the cheese tasting station that was set up. Sort of reminded me of
    the one at the Wegman's in Columbia, MD.

    I had to pull a gun on myself to keep from loading up on new tastes. I
    did nore a couple that would wrk well in cheeseburgers or make some
    specatcular toasted cheese sammiches. Later, maybe. I left with just
    what I had come for and was feeling pretty chuffed with myself. Then it
    dawned on my Ihad forgotten to pick up som fresh basil for the stuffing.

    Fortunately my local Sav-A-Lot maintains a pretty decent produce section
    and was on my way home. Bv)=

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Stuffers
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Herbs, Vegetables, Fruits
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 1" thick pork chops; bone
    - in or not
    1 c Dry bread crumbs
    +=OR=+
    1 c Crushed Ritz crackers
    1/2 ts (ea) ground black pepper &
    - salt
    5 tb Melted butter; divided
    1 sm Yellow onion; chopped
    2 tb Fresh basil; chiffonade
    1 md Apple, peeled, cored, diced
    - 1/4" cubes
    1 c Chicken broth
    1/2 c Rasins or Craisins; opt

    Make slits in pork chops to form a pocket in fat end.
    Combine bread crumbs, pepper, salt, 3 tablespoons of the
    melted butter, onions, fruit and basil; mix well.

    Stuff chops generously and skewer shut with toothpicks.

    Heat the remaining 2 tablespoons of melted butter in a
    skillet. Brown chops slowly over medium heat for 5
    minutes on each side. Add broth and simmer over low heat
    for 30 minutes until tender, turning chops at least
    once. Remove toothpicks and pour pan juices over pork
    chops before serving.

    Alternatively, after browning the chops finish in the
    crock-pot, pouring the pan juices over. Serve the
    liquid from the slow cooker on the side.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 22 17:22:19 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Later than usual getting around to doing my Fido. We wee down in Cary
    for a radio gathering/lunch and visits to a quilt shop & Bass Pro Shop. Came home, did laundry, had supper, etc.

    Sometimes life intrudes upon our plans.

    Yes, but it's fun to do something different. I'd been able to get one
    load of wash in the washer, then dryer before we left, 2nd load into the washer. Came home to just one load to dry, 2 loads to fold. Had thought
    we'd be leaving while first load was in washer but timed it so I could
    change out loads before we left.

    Radio gathering was at a pizza place down in Cary. Steve and I had
    slices from one (of 2, second was Hawaiian style) table pizza with bell peppers, onions and pepperoni--both had the same descritor word afterward--bland. Sauce didn't seem to have any spicing in it, no red
    pepper or grated cheese on the table either. Wasn't our choice of places
    and hopefully the group won't chose it again.


    That's just one of my "pet peeves" about recipes. Words mean things.
    It costs nothing to be accurate. If I get an otherwise nice recipe labelled "Shepherd's Pie" and made w/beef or any non-sheep meat I'll asterisk the title and explain in the text portion.

    May as well, at least you know with the * that it's not likely to be authentic.

    More in the (probably forlorn) hope that people reading it will begin
    to pay 'tention to the realities of life.

    Don't hold your breath. (G)


    I'm the same way with calls for "Swiss cheese". Usually it's obvious
    that the call is for the pale yellow cheese w/large holes - Ementhal.
    So I correct the ingredients. There are several varieties of cheese
    which call Switzerland home - Gouda, Raclette, Scharfe Maxx, Le
    Marechal, Tilsiter, and Vacherin. There are more, but you get the
    idea. (I hope)

    I know; I generally use the proper names, tho don't always capitalise them, for cheeses. One of my favorites, a cave aged Gruyere, I've only found at Whole Foods. Stopped into the Raleigh one a few weeks ago, couldn't find what I wanted (looked like it may have been discontinued) but walked out with a block of the C-A-G and various small pieces of cheese from their small samples box.

    If a cheese is named for a place or a person it *should* be
    capitalised. Cheddar is an actual village in Somerset, UK. But blue cheese is OK in lower case as it's not a place or person name. Unlike
    its close cousins Roquefort or Stilton. Bv)=

    I know, I usually capitalise but have been known not to if writing off
    the top of my head and not proofreading.


    I was at Hy-Vee (recently named the #1 grocery chain in USA by USA
    Today/ Gannett) to pick up some thick pork loin chops for stuffing and
    I wandered past the cheese tasting station that was set up. Sort of reminded me of the one at the Wegman's in Columbia, MD.

    We were in our Wegman's yesterday--produce section had a tasting station featuring a piece of Christmas pear and a piece of Scottish Ceddar. Nice
    combo. Sam's Club had a tasting station of Cabot Seriously Sharp (one of
    our favorites) and another Cheddar; we got a taster of the Seriously
    Sharp.


    I had to pull a gun on myself to keep from loading up on new tastes. I
    did nore a couple that would wrk well in cheeseburgers or make some specatcular toasted cheese sammiches. Later, maybe. I left with just
    what I had come for and was feeling pretty chuffed with myself. Then
    it dawned on my Ihad forgotten to pick up som fresh basil for the stuffing.

    Pre Covid, the Cabot outlet in Waterbury, VT (where we went on mission
    trips) had a big table set up with about 16 different kinds of cheese
    cut into taster bits, in cups with toothpicks. You could go around the
    table picking all or just what tickled your fancy of the samples. Now,
    since Covid, they have a stand set up with a person passing out samples
    of just a couple of their cheeses.


    Fortunately my local Sav-A-Lot maintains a pretty decent produce
    section and was on my way home. Bv)=

    Handy; we have both Wegman's and Lidl "around the corner" from us, plus
    fresh basil in the raised bed outside. (G)
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Dec 23 16:46:06 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Radio gathering was at a pizza place down in Cary.

    I've been to the John Deere factory in Cary once on a business trip. Nice place.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cranberry Ribbon Cheesecake
    Categories: Holidays, Cakes, Desserts
    Yield: 16 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------------CRUST--------------------------------
    1 1/2 c Finely crushed chocolate
    . creme-fllled sandwich
    . cookies (15 cookies)
    2 tb Margarine or butter, melted

    MMMMM----------------------CRANBERRY SAUCE---------------------------
    1 c Sugar
    2 tb Cornstarch
    1 1/2 c Fresh or frozen cranberries
    1 c Cranberry juice cocktail

    MMMMM-------------------------CHEESECAKE------------------------------
    1 c Sugar
    3 pk Cream cheese, (8-oz),
    . softened
    4 Eggs
    1 1/2 c Dairy sour cream
    2 ts Grated orange peel

    Heat oven to 350F. Grease 10 inch springform pan. In small bowl,
    combine crust ingredients; mix well. Press into bottom of greased
    springform pan. Set aside.

    In medium saucepan, combine 1 cup sugar and comstarch; blend well. Add
    cranberries and cranberry juice. Cook over medium heat until mixture
    is tbickened and bubbly, stirring constantly. Cook an additional 2
    minutes, stirring constantly. In food processor bowl with metal blade
    or blender container, process cranberry mixture until smooth. Set
    aside to cool.

    In large bowl, combine 1 cup sugar and cream cheese; beat until light
    and fluffy. Add eggs 1 at a time, beating well after each addition.
    Add sour cream and orange peel; blend well.

    Pour half of filling (3 cups) into crust- lined pan. Drizzle with
    half of cranbeny mixture (3/4 cup). Cover and refrigerate remaining
    cranbery mixture for topping. Carefully spoon remaimng fllling over
    cranberry mixture in pan.

    Bake at 350F for 60 to 70 minutes or until center is set. (To
    minimize cracking, place shallow pan half full of hot water on lower
    oven rack during baking.) Cool to room temperature. Cover;
    refrigerate several hours or overnight.

    Just before serving, run knife aroumd edge of pan; carefully remove
    sides of pan. Spread reserved cranberry mixture over cheesecake.
    Store in refrigerator. 16 servings.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Dec 24 05:00:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'll go for Russian but do not care for the strong bleu cheese type dressing. I'll eat ranch if nothing else is available or alternatives
    are worse, same with french. Bacon inproves almost everything but it
    won't help bleu cheese, IMO.

    I, on the other hoof, really like the blue veined cheeses and their
    acrid bite. I'll do ranch if there is plenty of fresh ground pepper to "wake it up". Otherwise it's pretty bland.

    So many to choose from. One place in western NY had a peppercorn ranch
    as their house specialty. It was ok for one salad but I'd want more variety if I were eating there regularly. We were there for my in laws 50th wedding anniversary celebration 25 years ago this time frame.

    I like peppercorn ranch once in a while. But, like you, not a steady
    diet, Part of picking a dressing is knowing what's in the salad and
    what's available to puton the salad. One place might have a bright red
    "French" dressing and another a dull orange "French" dressing. One of
    my parent's favourite dine-out places had a "Roquefort" dressing that
    actually was a Thousand Island dressing base with shaved/shredded blue
    veined Gorgonzola in liberal quantities on top. Gorgonzola is one of the
    very few blue-vein cheese which can be shredded rather than crumbled.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I used to stop in Lost Crutches when I was trucking. Get off of I-40
    at Amarillo and set off diagonally on US 50 past White Sands to pick
    up I-10 at Las Cruces. The Petro truck-em-up stop always had good
    grub.

    For a while we were commuting back and forth between Fort Huachuca
    (where we lived) and Fort Bliss (hospital). I had wrist surgeries (with follow ups) in 1993 and 94; Steve had jaw surgery in 2000, with follow ups. For some of them we rode the bus that FH provided, other times we drove. Got to know that section of I-10 quite well, and have been back
    on it since moving, most recently last fall. Army bus always stopped at the McD's in Lordsburg, NM for breakfast, once or twice supper. It was
    an up and back in one day trip, leaving FH at 03:30, returning after
    the last appointments were finished but usually getting back between
    1800 and 2000. When we drove, we'd stay overnight in TX, then return.

    Never did a Mickey D's on the road. And darned seldom at home. Other than
    their fries the rest of the menu can be bettered at any number of different fats food places. Even Burger Whop is better than MdC's. (talk about damning w/faint praise Bv)=).

    House of Yee (Cantonese Chinese) where, apparently no one in the
    kitchen spoke American) I started at the top of the menu and worked my
    way down. Noting 'repeaters" as I went. The J.B.'s Little Bali where I

    We've been doing Chinese more as a Friday night take out since we've
    been here. A little (maybe 6 tables) place opened up about the same
    time as we moved to WF; we've patronised them, trying others but coming back to this place. Usually do Korean as a sit down, tried a seafood "casserole" last time at one place but we agreed that it wasn't going
    to be a repeat.

    I like a few Korean dishes. But on the most part I prefer one of the Chinese regional cuisines. Or the Thai non-incendiary stuff. Some heat
    is alright. But lets not get stupid about it. Bv)=

    I'll go for either Korean or Chinese. Got introduced to the former thru
    a neighbor and the Army, picked up on Chinese just by trying it now and then over the years. I don't do the super hot Thai, also has to have no coconut or (if we're splitting a dish) cilantro. Limits the choices but we've had some good dishes over the years.

    I know you're not a fan of soap wedd. I don't care for dishes overloaded
    with it. But some things need a bit to taste "right". What's with the no coconut? Allergies or just dislike?

    I learned a lot about "real" Korean when I attended the picnic at Hap
    Newsome's on Tacoma, WA. There was a nice Korean restaurant (w/majority
    Asian clientele) across the parking lot from the Extended Stay America
    Notel. I tried a number of Korean dishes - but stayed away from the ones
    that required you to cook your own meat an the tabletop brazier. If I'm
    going to cook my own grub it's going to be at home and without paying restaurant prices. Bv)=

    My favourite Korean-owned/run restaurant was the Golden Dragon a Chinese restaurant that a Korean couple ran. Other than a could of Korean dishes
    there was no indication of their ethnicity. It was sad when the husband
    took sick and never recovered. The next owners ran it into the ground in
    short order.

    was introduced to the 50+ course Rijsttafel - more a Dutch thing. Each "course" was 2 tb or less of a different flavour/dish. And rice. Lots
    and lots of rice.

    Interesting, did you count the # of courses you had?

    Lost track after 20 or so. Bv)= It was culinary overload.

    I would imagine so. (G)

    This is one of the Korean didhes I liked at Golden Dragon. And didn't
    order in Washington as they expected the diner to cook his own meat at
    table. TheDragon brought it out plated and ready to pig out.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Authentic Korean Bulgogi
    Categories: Oriental, Beef, Marinades, Fruits
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Top sirloin; thin sliced
    2 tb White cooking wine *
    1 c Pear juice *
    1 ts Ground black pepper
    1/4 c Soy sauce
    1 tb White sugar
    2 tb Asian (toasted) sesame oil
    1 tb Minced garlic
    2 tb Chopped green onion
    1 tb Sesame seeds
    1/2 lb Fresh mushrooms; halved(opt)
    1/2 md Onion; chopped (opt)

    Place the beef in a bowl, and pour in the cooking wine,
    pear juice, and black pepper. Stir to combine, and allow
    to marinate for 30 minutes. Stir in the soy sauce, sugar,
    sesame oil, garlic, green onion, and sesame seeds, and
    marinate in refrigerator at least 2 hours or overnight.

    Preheat an outdoor grill for medium-high heat.

    Remove the beef from the marinade, and discard the
    marinade. Place a sheet of aluminum foil on the heated
    grill, and lay the beef slices separately on the foil.
    Place the mushrooms and onion on another part of the foil.
    Cook the beef slices until they are evenly brown, 3 to 5
    minutes per side. Serve with cooked mushrooms and onion.

    Submitted By: Minyoung "This is the Korean Bul-Go-Gi
    recipe I've learned from my mother who lives in Korea.
    I've made this dish many times and got raves every time.
    Yummy!"

    * Cook's Notes:

    You can substitute 2 shredded fresh pears for the pear
    juice and/or white grape juice for the wine.

    For better taste, soak beef in cold water for a couple of
    hours. Change water occasionally.

    OPTIONAL: Serve with a handful of Korean sweet-potato
    noodles. If pan-frying the beef, you can add 1/2 cup of
    beef broth to make a sauce to go over rice.

    Makes 4 servings

    From: http://www.allrecipes.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Dec 24 06:01:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Radio gathering was at a pizza place down in Cary. Steve and I had
    slices from one (of 2, second was Hawaiian style) table pizza with bell peppers, onions and pepperoni--both had the same descritor word afterward--bland. Sauce didn't seem to have any spicing in it, no red pepper or grated cheese on the table either. Wasn't our choice of
    places and hopefully the group won't chose it again.

    One of my favourite pizza places has been sold and is currently being
    renovated for re-opening. Bill Pope, the guy who bought Charlie Parker's
    Diner (featured on Crazy Fieri's Diners, Dives etc.) and listed as one of
    to best diners in the US .... bought Gabatoni's from its original owner.

    Gabby's quit all but drive-thru during the covid crisis and never went
    back to inside service. They used to have the best thin-crust pizza in
    the area. But, they changed the recipe and their unbroken string of
    "Best Of" awards stopped when they did so. Bill tells me e has the old
    recipe for their sauce and has hired one of the guys who ran the kitchen
    during the hey-day to supervise and train staff. Hopefully the quality
    of the pizza will return and a coupl of my groups which met monthly at
    Gabby's can come back and enjoy life again.

    That's just one of my "pet peeves" about recipes. Words mean things.
    It costs nothing to be accurate. If I get an otherwise nice recipe labelled "Shepherd's Pie" and made w/beef or any non-sheep meat I'll asterisk the title and explain in the text portion.

    May as well, at least you know with the * that it's not likely to be authentic.

    More in the (probably forlorn) hope that people reading it will begin
    to pay 'tention to the realities of life.

    Don't hold your breath. (G)

    Not unless I want to tuen blue. Bv)=

    I'm the same way with calls for "Swiss cheese". Usually it's obvious
    that the call is for the pale yellow cheese w/large holes - Ementhal.
    So I correct the ingredients. There are several varieties of cheese
    which call Switzerland home - Gouda, Raclette, Scharfe Maxx, Le
    Marechal, Tilsiter, and Vacherin. There are more, but you get the
    idea. (I hope)

    I know; I generally use the proper names, tho don't always capitalise them, for cheeses. One of my favorites, a cave aged Gruyere, I've only found at Whole Foods. Stopped into the Raleigh one a few weeks ago, couldn't find what I wanted (looked like it may have been discontinued) but walked out with a block of the C-A-G and various small pieces of cheese from their small samples box.

    8<----- CHOP ----->8

    We were in our Wegman's yesterday--produce section had a tasting
    station featuring a piece of Christmas pear and a piece of Scottish Ceddar. Nice combo. Sam's Club had a tasting station of Cabot Seriously Sharp (one of our favorites) and another Cheddar; we got a taster of
    the Seriously Sharp.

    I had to pull a gun on myself to keep from loading up on new tastes. I
    did nore a couple that would wrk well in cheeseburgers or make some specatcular toasted cheese sammiches. Later, maybe. I left with just
    what I had come for and was feeling pretty chuffed with myself. Then
    it dawned on my Ihad forgotten to pick up som fresh basil for the stuffing.

    Pre Covid, the Cabot outlet in Waterbury, VT (where we went on mission trips) had a big table set up with about 16 different kinds of cheese
    cut into taster bits, in cups with toothpicks. You could go around the table picking all or just what tickled your fancy of the samples. Now, since Covid, they have a stand set up with a person passing out samples
    of just a couple of their cheeses.

    Fortunately my local Sav-A-Lot maintains a pretty decent produce
    section and was on my way home. Bv)=

    Handy; we have both Wegman's and Lidl "around the corner" from us, plus fresh basil in the raised bed outside. (G)

    I got the evergreens out from the front of the house. But the raised beds (three 4' X 8' X 30" tall) aren't in - and won't be until (probably) next February.

    I foresee a bounty of tomatoes, chilies, bell peppers and icicle radishes (which I never see in stores).

    I'll likely never make this as written - but I may look into cutting it
    down to use just one rack of lamb. And find a substitute for the wine.
    I'm not against wine in cooking. But I don't stock, nor drink it. So ...

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Roasted Rack of Lamb w/Icicle Radishes
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Vegetable, Herbs, Wine, Citrus
    Yield: 11 servomgs

    15 lb (4 racks) lamb
    1 c Extra-virgin olive oil
    Juice & zest of 1 orange
    1/2 bn Fresh rosemary; needles
    - stripped from the stem
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    2 bn Icicle radishes; trimmed,
    - well-washed
    2 tb A-P flour
    750 ml Red zinfandel wine
    1 c Kalamata olives; pitted
    2 bn WWatercress; trimmed, well
    - washed

    Recipe courtesy of Tyler Florence

    Ask the butcher to remove the chine bone (back bone)
    from each rack of lamb, to clean and "french" the ribs,
    and trim the fat cap on the meat.

    Set the oven @ 450ºF/232ºC.

    In a small bowl, mix the olive oil with the orange
    juice, zest, and half of the rosemary to flavor the oil.
    Pour the rosemary oil over the lamb and rub it into the
    meat really well; season with a generous amount of salt
    and pepper. Place the racks of lamb side by side in a
    large roasting pan, with the rib bones facing up; wrap
    the bones in foil to prevent blackening in the oven.
    Toss the radishes with a little oil and put them in the
    roasting pan next to the lamb.

    Roast until the internal temperature of the meat at the
    thickest point registers 130 degrees F for medium-rare
    doneness, about 40 to 50 minutes. The radishes should be
    tender and golden.

    Remove the racks of lamb to a carving board to rest,
    tent them with foil. Drain the excess fat from the
    roasting pan and set the pan on two burners over
    medium-high heat. Sprinkle the flour into the pan
    drippings and stir to cook out the starchy taste of the
    flour. Gradually pour in the wine, stirring constantly
    to scrape up the brown bits and avoid lumps. Toss in the
    remaining rosemary and simmer for 15 minutes to reduce,
    season with salt and pepper. Add the olives and cook
    another 2 minutes to heat through.

    To serve: Cut the racks of lamb between the ribs into
    chops. Arrange 2 lamb chops on each plate with the
    roasted radishes, the olive-wine sauce, and a small pile
    of watercress.

    Yield: 10 to 12 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodnetwork.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Tue Dec 24 12:27:13 2024
    Hi Sean,


    Radio gathering was at a pizza place down in Cary.

    I've been to the John Deere factory in Cary once on a business trip.
    Nice place.

    Didn't know such a place existed, never heard about it. We don't get
    down to Cary that often, usually North Raleigh is about as far as we go.
    last year we debated going down to Cary for the Chinese lantern show but
    bad weather forced it to close early, before we got there.

    We're making a leg of lamb for Christmas dinner, doing it the same way
    we do lamb shanks. Marinading it in Italian dressing, then braising it.
    I'll probably do kasha with it, haven't decided on a vegetable yet. It's
    only the 2 of us, but we may talk with our daughters via Zoom.
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Dec 24 13:01:44 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Radio gathering was at a pizza place down in Cary. Steve and I had afterward--bland. Sauce didn't seem to have any spicing in it, no red

    One of my favourite pizza places has been sold and is currently being renovated for re-opening. Bill Pope, the guy who bought Charlie
    Parker's Diner (featured on Crazy Fieri's Diners, Dives etc.) and
    listed as one of to best diners in the US .... bought Gabatoni's from
    its original owner.

    Hopefully he will be able to get it back on its feet and do well.

    Gabby's quit all but drive-thru during the covid crisis and never went back to inside service. They used to have the best thin-crust pizza in
    the area. But, they changed the recipe and their unbroken string of
    "Best Of" awards stopped when they did so. Bill tells me e has the old recipe for their sauce and has hired one of the guys who ran the
    kitchen during the hey-day to supervise and train staff. Hopefully the quality
    of the pizza will return and a coupl of my groups which met monthly at Gabby's can come back and enjoy life again.

    Sounds like he's got a good game plan. This radio group had met at
    another pizza place, south of Raleigh. Pizza there had a thin, not quite cracker, crust, better seasoning but we prefer a thicker crust. Steve
    and I usually split a 10" with traditional toppings there.


    8<----- CHOP ----->8

    We were in our Wegman's yesterday--produce section had a tasting
    station featuring a piece of Christmas pear and a piece of Scottish Ceddar. Nice combo. Sam's Club had a tasting station of Cabot Seriously Sharp (one of our favorites) and another Cheddar; we got a taster of
    the Seriously Sharp.

    I had to pull a gun on myself to keep from loading up on new tastes. I
    did nore a couple that would wrk well in cheeseburgers or make some specatcular toasted cheese sammiches. Later, maybe. I left with just
    what I had come for and was feeling pretty chuffed with myself. Then
    it dawned on my Ihad forgotten to pick up som fresh basil for the stuffing.

    Sam's Club was just setting up their tasting stations when we were
    there. Guess they were aiming to hit people coming in on "lunch time",
    saw probably 8-10 stations being prepped. Cheese one didn't have much
    prep work so they were handing out samples early on.


    Pre Covid, the Cabot outlet in Waterbury, VT (where we went on mission trips) had a big table set up with about 16 different kinds of cheese
    cut into taster bits, in cups with toothpicks. You could go around the table picking all or just what tickled your fancy of the samples. Now, since Covid, they have a stand set up with a person passing out samples
    of just a couple of their cheeses.

    Fortunately my local Sav-A-Lot maintains a pretty decent produce
    section and was on my way home. Bv)=

    Handy; we have both Wegman's and Lidl "around the corner" from us, plus fresh basil in the raised bed outside. (G)

    I got the evergreens out from the front of the house. But the raised
    beds (three 4' X 8' X 30" tall) aren't in - and won't be until
    (probably) next February.

    We put them in a couple of years ago, concentrating on herbs but last
    spring did sugar snap peas also.

    I foresee a bounty of tomatoes, chilies, bell peppers and icicle
    radishes (which I never see in stores).

    We got some in a mixed bag of radishes at the local farmer's market a
    few times.

    I'll likely never make this as written - but I may look into
    cutting DD> it down to use just one rack of lamb. And find a substitute
    for the DD> wine. DD> I'm not against wine in cooking. But I don't
    stock, nor drink it. So DD> ...

    We buy small boxes for cooking only, usually a red and a white. Don't
    use a lot at a time, just enough for a background note.


    Title: Roasted Rack of Lamb w/Icicle Radishes
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Vegetable, Herbs, Wine, Citrus
    Yield: 11 servomgs
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Dec 26 06:10:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Radio gathering was at a pizza place down in Cary. Steve and I had afterward--bland. Sauce didn't seem to have any spicing in it, no red

    One of my favourite pizza places has been sold and is currently being renovated for re-opening. Bill Pope, the guy who bought Charlie
    Parker's Diner (featured on Crazy Fieri's Diners, Dives etc.) and
    listed as one of to best diners in the US .... bought Gabatoni's from
    its original owner.

    Hopefully he will be able to get it back on its feet and do well.

    Bill is quite the entrepeneur. Whern he took over Charlie Parker's he
    had a diner, off the beatren track, in a quonset hut. It had already
    been featured on the Food Network and won a national cooking/recipe competition. To top that Bill got them on the Best Diner's in USA listing.

    Gabby's quit all but drive-thru during the covid crisis and never went back to inside service. They used to have the best thin-crust pizza in
    the area. But, they changed the recipe and their unbroken string of
    "Best Of" awards stopped when they did so. Bill tells me e has the old recipe for their sauce and has hired one of the guys who ran the
    kitchen during the hey-day to supervise and train staff. Hopefully the quality
    of the pizza will return and a coupl of my groups which met monthly at Gabby's can come back and enjoy life again.

    Sounds like he's got a good game plan. This radio group had met at
    another pizza place, south of Raleigh. Pizza there had a thin, not
    quite cracker, crust, better seasoning but we prefer a thicker crust. Steve and I usually split a 10" with traditional toppings there.

    Gabatoni's won the Best Pizza category every year in both the State Journal
    and the Illinois Times newspapers. Until the pandemic and the change in the recipe. Part of the deal was the "original" recipe and contact with one of
    the kitchen supervisors who ran the kitchen pre-pandemic. He'll do well.

    8<----- CHOP ----->8

    Fortunately my local Sav-A-Lot maintains a pretty decent produce
    section and was on my way home. Bv)=

    Handy; we have both Wegman's and Lidl "around the corner" from us, plus fresh basil in the raised bed outside. (G)

    I got the evergreens out from the front of the house. But the raised
    beds (three 4' X 8' X 30" tall) aren't in - and won't be until
    (probably) next February.

    We put them in a couple of years ago, concentrating on herbs but last spring did sugar snap peas also.

    Bingo. I had not thought of them. But, now .......

    I foresee a bounty of tomatoes, chilies, bell peppers and icicle
    radishes (which I never see in stores).

    We got some in a mixed bag of radishes at the local farmer's market a
    few times.

    I'll likely never make this as written - but I may look into cutting
    it down to use just one rack of lamb. And find a substitute for the
    wine.

    I'm not against wine in cooking. But I don't stock, nor drink it.

    We buy small boxes for cooking only, usually a red and a white. Don't
    use a lot at a time, just enough for a background note.

    My nearby Walgreen's has a bin of small (150 mL?) bottles of reds and
    whites suitable for cooking. Those are the ones I use.

    Title: Roasted Rack of Lamb w/Icicle Radishes
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Vegetable, Herbs, Wine, Citrus
    Yield: 11 servings

    Here's one that calls for wine. I've made it with and without wine and
    the quality/taste does not suffer.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Classic Beef Stew
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Wine, Stews
    Yield: 9 Servings

    4 lb Stew beef, trimmed, in 2"
    - pieces
    1 c All-purpose flour
    1/3 c Olive oil; more if needed
    2 lg Onions; diced
    6 oz Can tomato paste
    1 c Dry red wine *
    1 lb Potatoes; in 2" pieces
    1/2 lb Baby carrots
    2 c Beef broth
    1 tb Salt
    1 ts Dried thyme leaves
    1 California bay leaf
    1 c Peas; fresh or frozen

    * may substitute unsweetened cranberry juice - UDD

    Coat the beef in the flour. Heat a few tablespoons of
    the oil in a large skillet over medium-high heat. Brown
    the meat, a few pieces at a time, adding more oil as
    necessary. Transfer to a 4 to 6 qt thick crockery pot.

    Add the onions to the skillet and cook over medium heat
    until tender, about 10 minutes. Stir in the tomato paste
    and coat the onions; transfer to the pot.

    Pour the wine into the skillet and scrape up any browned
    bits; add to the cooker. Stir in the potatoes, carrots,
    broth, salt, thyme, and bay leaf.

    Cover and cook on top of heating stove for 7 1/2 hours.
    Add the peas and heat through.

    From: http://www.realsimple.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Dec 26 06:27:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    So many to choose from. One place in western NY had a peppercorn ranch
    as their house specialty. It was ok for one salad but I'd want more variety if I were eating there regularly. We were there for my in laws 50th wedding anniversary celebration 25 years ago this time frame.

    I like peppercorn ranch once in a while. But, like you, not a steady
    diet, Part of picking a dressing is knowing what's in the salad and what's available to put on the salad. One place might have a bright red "French" dressing and another a dull orange "French" dressing. One of

    Unless it's an occaision where everything is pre set. When Steve was in the Army, we attended a number of formal and informal events, dinner included. Tables were usually set with a bowl of ranch dressing and
    some other (Italian-ish?); when it was time for the meal, salads were brought out. They were generally a tossed salad--heavy on the iceburg lettuce, 2 or 3 cherry tomatoes, a few pieces each of cucumber and julienned carrot. Nothing fancy; the entree was the feature of the meal unless it was June 11--the Army birthday. For that, a big cake was on display, then first cut was with a sword.

    Those pre-set salads sound like the Dole pre-bagged salads down the market.
    Add your on tomatoes - which I do, as well as some sunflower kernels, or,
    if I have them (seldom) pine nuts, and maybe some cheese. I have been
    known to take a tarted-up bagged salad, put it in a BIG bowl and make that
    my supper.

    my parent's favourite dine-out places had a "Roquefort" dressing
    that actually was a Thousand Island dressing base with shaved/
    shredded blue veined Gorgonzola in liberal quantities on top.
    Gorgonzola is one of the very few blue-vein cheeses which can
    be shredded rather than crumbled.

    My parents usually went for bleu cheese, and most often it was a low quality one. For years, Dad wasn't much of a salad eater but back in
    1974 a medical issue hospitalised my youngest sister for several months about 75 miles away from home. Mom and Dad went to see her about every other day, usually having supper out. Dad ate enough salads (free, with the meal) to begin to enjoy them. After that, they appeared on our
    dinner table on an irregular basis.

    One of the things I like about the local truck-stop's restaurant is that
    any non-breakfast meal you order comes with a chice of one of the soups
    of the day (they always have two except Sunday - when it's Creamy Chicken
    Rice soup only) or you can take a "side salad" with lettuce, shredded
    carrot, some sliced or diced tomato and a couple nice slices of cucumber.
    Even a burger & fries comes w/that choice.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Never did a Mickey D's on the road. And darned seldom at home. Other
    than their fries the rest of the menu can be bettered at any number of different fats food places. Even Burger Whop is better than MdC's.
    (talk about damning w/faint praise Bv)=).

    I had no choice on the trips arrainged by the FH hospital. The shuttle
    was easier for us so Steve wouldn't have to take off from work. I think once or twice we both had appointments up at Beaumont (Fort Bliss hospital) so we both rode the shuttle.

    I like a few Korean dishes. But on the most part I prefer one of the Chinese regional cuisines. Or the Thai non-incendiary stuff. Some heat
    is alright. But lets not get stupid about it. Bv)=

    I'll go for either Korean or Chinese. Got introduced to the former thru
    a neighbor and the Army, picked up on Chinese just by trying it now and then over the years. I don't do the super hot Thai, also has to have no coconut or (if we're splitting a dish) cilantro. Limits the choices but we've had some good dishes over the years.

    Most of the Thai places here (we have several) offer mild, medium, or hot
    heat levels. If it's a new-to-me venue I start with the medium heat then
    adjust up or down on future visits.

    I know you're not a fan of soap weed. I don't care for dishes
    overloaded with it. But some things need a bit to taste "right".
    What's with the no coconut? Allergies or just dislike?

    Same as peanut butter, just a dislike. Also dislike coffee, would
    rather have a cuppa tea any day.

    Good thing I like peanut butter - some evenings my suppet is a couple of
    pairs of Ritz crackers with a nice dollop of crunchy peanut butter.

    Have you tried Nutella? It's sort-of a UK nut butter made with hazelnuts.
    And often has chocolate in it ... at least what I've seen around here.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: S'mores Crescent Rolls
    Categories: Five, Breds, Nuts, Snacks, Chocolate
    Yield: 8 servings

    8 oz Tube refrigerated crescent
    - rolls
    1/4 c Nutella; divided
    2 Whole graham crackers;
    - broken up
    2 tb Milk chocolate chips
    2/3 c Miniature marshmallows

    Set oven @ 375oF/190oC.

    Unroll crescent dough; separate into 8 triangles.
    Place 1 teaspoon Nutella at the wide end of each
    triangle; sprinkle with graham crackers, chocolate chips
    and marshmallows. Roll up and place on ungreased baking
    sheets, point side down; curve to form crescents. Bake
    until golden brown, 9-11 minutes.

    In a microwave, warm remaining Nutella to reach a
    drizzling consistency; spoon over rolls. Serve warm.

    Cathy Trochelman, Brookfield, Wisconsin

    Makes: 8 S'mores

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Dec 26 12:27:26 2024
    Hi Dave,


    One of my favourite pizza places has been sold and is currently being renovated for re-opening. Bill Pope, the guy who bought Charlie

    Hopefully he will be able to get it back on its feet and do well.

    Maybe some place to check out if ever in the area?


    Bill is quite the entrepeneur. Whern he took over Charlie Parker's he

    Gabby's quit all but drive-thru during the covid crisis and never went back to inside service. They used to have the best thin-crust pizza in

    "New and improved" isn't always so. The "old and still the same" can be
    just as good, if not better, for most people. Owner may be thinking that
    the new will make more money but if it's not as good as the old, it
    won't.

    change in the recipe. Part of the deal was the "original" recipe and contact with one of the kitchen supervisors who ran the kitchen pre-pandemic. He'll do well.

    As long as he hires good help.

    8<----- CHOP ----->8

    We put them in a couple of years ago, concentrating on herbs but last spring did sugar snap peas also.

    Bingo. I had not thought of them. But, now .......

    Easy to grow, easy to prepare. Pick, wash and eat raw. (G)


    We buy small boxes for cooking only, usually a red and a white. Don't
    use a lot at a time, just enough for a background note.

    My nearby Walgreen's has a bin of small (150 mL?) bottles of reds and whites suitable for cooking. Those are the ones I use.

    We get it at Publix--a lot easier than the ABC store and can get other groceries in the same trip.


    Here's one that calls for wine. I've made it with and without wine and
    the quality/taste does not suffer.


    Title: Classic Beef Stew
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Wine, Stews
    Yield: 9 Servings

    My basic beef stew is meat, onion, carrots, potatoes, mushrooms and
    tomatoes. Other add ins, if in the fridge include celery, turnip or
    parsnips. The tomato is usually in the form of sauce, as part of the
    liquids. A splash of red wine adds some depth to the flavor without overpowering other flavors.
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Dec 28 06:03:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    One of my favourite pizza places has been sold and is currently being renovated for re-opening. Bill Pope, the guy who bought Charlie

    Hopefully he will be able to get it back on its feet and do well.

    Maybe some place to check out if ever in the area?

    Bill is quite the entrepeneur. Whern he took over Charlie Parker's he

    Gabby's quit all but drive-thru during the covid crisis and never went back to inside service. They used to have the best thin-crust pizza in

    "New and improved" isn't always so. The "old and still the same" can be just as good, if not better, for most people. Owner may be thinking
    that the new will make more money but if it's not as good as the old,
    it won't.

    My motto is "Dance with who brung you!"

    change in the recipe. Part of the deal was the "original" recipe and contact with one of the kitchen supervisors who ran the kitchen pre-pandemic. He'll do well.

    As long as he hires good help.

    I predict that he will. All of his staff at Charlie Parker's - with the exception of one "new hire" who was caught adding unauthorised tips to
    credit cards. I was one of those who was got. She added a U$5 tip to an
    U$8.89 tab. It was easy to spot since I never tip via plastic. Always
    on the table. And always in my "wairess bait" format. Gold dollar coins, half-dollar coins and U$2 bills. Gets me remembered favourably and I get sparkling service on sbsequent visits. Bv)=

    8<----- CHOP ----->8

    We put them in a couple of years ago, concentrating on herbs but last spring did sugar snap peas also.

    Bingo. I had not thought of them. But, now .......

    Easy to grow, easy to prepare. Pick, wash and eat raw. (G)

    Or use 'em in stir fries.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    Here's one that calls for wine. I've made it with and without wine and
    the quality/taste does not suffer.

    Title: Classic Beef Stew
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Wine, Stews
    Yield: 9 Servings

    My basic beef stew is meat, onion, carrots, potatoes, mushrooms and tomatoes. Other add ins, if in the fridge include celery, turnip or parsnips. The tomato is usually in the form of sauce, as part of the liquids. A splash of red wine adds some depth to the flavor without overpowering other flavors.

    Maybe it's my taster. But I couldn't determine any difference in that
    recipe.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: 3-Envelope Crockpot Roast (Without The Envelopes)
    Categories: Five, Beef, Herbs
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 lb Chuck roast; trimmed
    3 tb Ranch dressing mix; (below)
    2 tb Gravy mix; (below)
    2 tb Italian dressing mix;(below)
    2 c Water

    MMMMM---------------------RANCH DRESSING MIX--------------------------
    1/3 c Dry buttermilk powder
    3 tb Parsley flakes
    2 1/2 ts Garlic powder
    2 1/2 ts Onion powder
    2 ts Dried minced onion
    2 ts Dried dill weed
    1 1/2 ts Kosher salt
    +=OR=+
    1 ts Salt
    1 ts Black pepper

    MMMMM-------------------------GRAVY MIX------------------------------
    3 tb Beef bouillon granules
    1 ts Onion powder
    1 ts Garlic powder
    1/2 ts Thyme
    1/2 ts Pepper
    1/2 c Flour

    MMMMM--------------------ITALIAN DRESSING MIX-------------------------
    1 tb Garlic powder
    1 tb Onion powder
    1 tb Sugar
    2 tb Oregano
    1/4 ts Thyme
    1 ts Basil
    1 tb Dried parsley
    2 tb Salt

    In a pan, heat 2 tsp of oil over medium-high heat. Brown
    the roast on each side for 5 minutes. This step is not
    mandatory but it does make the roast taste better!

    Add the browned roast to the slow cooker.

    In a bowl whisk the water together with the 3 mixes.
    Pour the mixture over the roast.

    Cover and cook on low for 8-12 hours (depending on your
    slow cooker). You'll know the roast is done if you can
    shred it easily.

    RANCH DRESSING MIX: Run all the ingredients through a
    blender or food processor. Pulse about 10 times until
    all the granules are the same consistency. Store in an
    airtight container. To make ranch dressing whisk
    together 3 tb of ranch mix, 1 cup mayonnaise and 1 cup
    milk until smooth. Refrigerate for half hour before
    serving.

    GRAVY MIX: Run all the ingredients through a blender or
    food processor. Pulse about 10 times until all the
    granules are the same consistency. Store in an airtight
    container. To make gravy, mix 1/4 cup of mix with 2 cups
    of milk or water in a saucepan. Whisk over medium heat
    until smooth and it thickens.

    ITALIAN DRESSING MIX: Run all the ingredients through a
    blender or food processor. Pulse about 10 times until
    all the granules are the same consistency. Store in an
    airtight container. To make Italian dressing mix
    together 1/4 cup cinder vinegar, 2/3 cup olive oil, 2
    tb water and 2 tb mix. Store in the refrigerator.

    UDD NOTES: This works perfectly in my 6 qt casserole
    crockpot. I have now made up the "dry-mix" stuff above
    but for the first go I used up some Ranch Dressing Mix
    and Knorr Brown Gravy mix I had on hand. And used 2
    cups of creamy Italian Dressing from a bottle in my
    ice box in place of the water.

    This is a *VERY* forgiving/flexible recipe.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.365daysofcrockpot.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Dec 28 06:11:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    brought out. They were generally a tossed salad--heavy on the iceberg lettuce, 2 or 3 cherry tomatoes, a few pieces each of cucumber and julienned carrot. Nothing fancy; the entree was the feature of the meal

    Those pre-set salads sound like the Dole pre-bagged salads down the market. Add your on tomatoes - which I do, as well as some sunflower kernels, or, if I have them (seldom) pine nuts, and maybe some cheese.
    I have been known to take a tarted-up bagged salad, put it in a BIG
    bowl and make that my supper.

    We've bought them too, Sam's Club usually has a good assortment. Their sweet kale one got Steve to like (raw) brussels sprouts; he still
    doesn't like cooked ones. My favorite one has greens, apple, Cheddar cheese, raisins and bacon bits with a cider vinegarette dressing--sort
    of sweet/sour.

    I've not seen pre-bagged salads w/apples or fruit. But, then, I don't do anything tainted with WalMart affiliation. And seldom buy bagged salad
    in any event.

    My parents usually went for bleu cheese, and most often it was a low quality one. For years, Dad wasn't much of a salad eater but back in
    1974 a medical issue hospitalised my youngest sister for several months about 75 miles away from home. Mom and Dad went to see her about every other day, usually having supper out. Dad ate enough salads (free, with the meal) to begin to enjoy them. After that, they appeared on our
    dinner table on an irregular basis.

    One of the things I like about the local truck-stop's restaurant is
    that any non-breakfast meal you order comes with a chice of one of the soups of the day (they always have two except Sunday - when it's
    Creamy Chicken Rice soup only) or you can take a "side salad" with lettuce, shredded carrot, some sliced or diced tomato and a couple
    nice slices of cucumber. Even a burger & fries comes w/that choice.

    Sounds good to me; I'll most likely take the salad, especially if htey have 1,000 Island dressing.

    Oh, they do.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Most of the Thai places here (we have several) offer mild, medium, or
    hot heat levels. If it's a new-to-me venue I start with the medium
    heat then adjust up or down on future visits.

    I'll start with the mild. The Korean place we went to last month listed their seafood "casserole" (more of a soup/stew) as mild, medium or hot, said their medium wasn't that hot. We ordered it for both of us,
    medium, and the broth was too hot for me. Thee ban chan and rice helped cool my mouth down. (G)

    When Magic Kitchen came to town it was the first Thai place here. They
    lady who ran the front of the house had been a missionary and she got
    married to a Thai chef. I ordered garlic-pepper pork and was going to
    get it "hot" when she warned me that was "Thai Hot" nor "round-eye hot".
    So i ordered medium and it was about at the top of my heat tolerance.

    Some time later I was having lunch. Magic Kitchen having become one of
    my regular stops. A cople of guys I know from the race track came in to
    "try it out". They ordered their dishes hot even though she warned them.

    I watched ot the corner of my eye as they sat at their table glaring at
    one another. I could almost hear te "macho-mindset" thoughts ... "He's
    gong to take another bite. Which means I'll have to take another ... "

    I ran across one of the guys later and asked (facetiously) how he liked
    his lunch. He said, "Shoulda listened to her and let Steve be a "Hero"
    by himself."

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Garlic Pepper Pork
    Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Lean pork; in small strips
    2 tb Oil
    3 lg Garlic cloves; chopped fine
    1 md Onion; diced
    1/2 Red bell peppers; diced
    2 Prik kaleang chilies,crushed
    +=OR=+
    6 Prik kee noo suan chilies;
    - crushed
    6 sl Fresh ginger; quarter-sized,
    - cut in matchsticks
    1 tb Fresh ground black pepper
    2 tb Nam Pla fish sauce
    2 tb Oyster sauce
    1 tb Soy sauce
    1/4 c Stock or water

    Heat oil to medium-high; stir-fry garlic, dried chile,
    and pork, about 3-4 minutes until pork is nearly done.

    Add onions, ginger, bell pepper, and stir-fry 3 minutes.

    Add black pepper and remaining liquids and stir-fry
    another 1-2 minutes. Taste and adjust seasonings.

    Serve over white rice.

    Servings: 4

    RECIPE FROM: https://hot-thai-kitchen.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Dec 28 13:59:39 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Gabby's quit all but drive-thru during the covid crisis and never went back to inside service. They used to have the best thin-crust pizza in

    "New and improved" isn't always so. The "old and still the same" can be just as good, if not better, for most people. Owner may be thinking
    that the new will make more money but if it's not as good as the old,
    it won't.

    My motto is "Dance with who brung you!"

    Works 99.99% of the time.

    contact with one of the kitchen supervisors who ran the kitchen pre-pandemic. He'll do well.

    As long as he hires good help.

    I predict that he will. All of his staff at Charlie Parker's - with
    the exception of one "new hire" who was caught adding unauthorised
    tips to
    credit cards. I was one of those who was got. She added a U$5 tip to
    an U$8.89 tab. It was easy to spot since I never tip via plastic.
    Always
    on the table. And always in my "wairess bait" format. Gold dollar
    coins, half-dollar coins and U$2 bills. Gets me remembered favourably
    and I get sparkling service on sbsequent visits. Bv)=

    Fun to give--and get--those kind of tips. Good thing the new hire was
    caught, hopefully before much damage was done.

    8<----- CHOP ----->8


    My basic beef stew is meat, onion, carrots, potatoes, mushrooms and tomatoes. Other add ins, if in the fridge include celery, turnip or parsnips. The tomato is usually in the form of sauce, as part of the liquids. A splash of red wine adds some depth to the flavor without overpowering other flavors.

    Maybe it's my taster. But I couldn't determine any difference in that recipe.

    It's a very subtle taste, probably Michael would have picked it up but
    not us "average tasters".

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Dec 28 14:04:13 2024
    Hi Dave,

    kernels, or, if I have them (seldom) pine nuts, and maybe some cheese.
    I have been known to take a tarted-up bagged salad, put it in a BIG
    bowl and make that my supper.

    We've bought them too, Sam's Club usually has a good assortment. Their sweet kale one got Steve to like (raw) brussels sprouts; he still
    doesn't like cooked ones. My favorite one has greens, apple, Cheddar cheese, raisins and bacon bits with a cider vinegarette dressing--sort
    of sweet/sour.

    I've not seen pre-bagged salads w/apples or fruit. But, then, I don't
    do anything tainted with WalMart affiliation. And seldom buy bagged
    salad in any event.

    We'll get them from time to time, good when fresh vegetables aren't as
    readily available or too expensive. IIRC, Wegman's has one with apples
    also but then too, you don't have them in your area.


    One of the things I like about the local truck-stop's restaurant is
    that any non-breakfast meal you order comes with a chice of one of the soups of the day (they always have two except Sunday - when it's
    Creamy Chicken Rice soup only) or you can take a "side salad" with lettuce, shredded carrot, some sliced or diced tomato and a couple
    nice slices of cucumber. Even a burger & fries comes w/that choice.

    Sounds good to me; I'll most likely take the salad, especially if
    they RH> have 1,000 Island dressing.

    Oh, they do.

    I'll take that, on the side please.



    When Magic Kitchen came to town it was the first Thai place here. They lady who ran the front of the house had been a missionary and she got married to a Thai chef. I ordered garlic-pepper pork and was going to
    get it "hot" when she warned me that was "Thai Hot" nor "round-eye
    hot". So i ordered medium and it was about at the top of my heat tolerance.

    Some time later I was having lunch. Magic Kitchen having become one of
    my regular stops. A cople of guys I know from the race track came in
    to "try it out". They ordered their dishes hot even though she warned them.

    I watched ot the corner of my eye as they sat at their table glaring
    at one another. I could almost hear te "macho-mindset" thoughts ...
    "He's
    gong to take another bite. Which means I'll have to take another ... "

    I ran across one of the guys later and asked (facetiously) how he
    liked his lunch. He said, "Shoulda listened to her and let Steve be a "Hero"
    by himself."

    Pays to listen to the waitress. I got some Thai once in HI, started out
    nice and mild but got hotter the more I ate of it. Good, but didn't want
    to roast my mouth. Steve finished it for me and admitted that it was
    hot, even for him.
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Dec 30 05:25:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Gabby's quit all but drive-thru during the covid crisis and never went back to inside service. They used to have the best thin-crust pizza in

    "New and improved" isn't always so. The "old and still the same" can be just as good, if not better, for most people. Owner may be thinking
    that the new will make more money but if it's not as good as the old,
    it won't.

    My motto is "Dance with who brung you!"

    Works 99.99% of the time.

    contact with one of the kitchen supervisors who ran the kitchen pre-pandemic. He'll do well.

    As long as he hires good help.

    I predict that he will. All of his staff at Charlie Parker's - with
    the exception of one "new hire" who was caught adding unauthorised
    tips to credit cards. I was one of those who was got. She added a
    U$5 tip to an U$8.89 tab. It was easy to spot since I never tip via plastic. Always on the table. And always in my "wairess bait" format.
    Gold dollar coins, half-dollar coins and U$2 bills. Gets me remembered favourably and I get sparkling service on sbsequent visits. Bv)=

    Fun to give--and get--those kind of tips. Good thing the new hire was caught, hopefully before much damage was done.

    When I asked about the "high price" is when I learned she had been "outed"
    - and my breakfast was comped. I'm reasonably sure they did the same for
    anyone else who spoke up.

    8<----- CHOP ----->8

    My basic beef stew is meat, onion, carrots, potatoes, mushrooms and tomatoes. Other add ins, if in the fridge include celery, turnip or parsnips. The tomato is usually in the form of sauce, as part of the liquids. A splash of red wine adds some depth to the flavor without overpowering other flavors.

    Maybe it's my taster. But I couldn't determine any difference in that recipe.

    It's a very subtle taste, probably Michael would have picked it up but
    not us "average tasters".

    True Dat! He amazed me more than once.

    I first met MLoo at my first picnic at Pat Stockett's in Alabama.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Crawfish Etouffee - Picnic
    Categories: Loo, Seafood, Herbs, Chilies, Rice
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/4 c Butter
    1/4 c Shortening
    1/2 c Flour
    3 md Onions; chopped
    1 Celery rib; minced (opt)
    2 1/2 md Green peppers; diced
    5 cl Garlic; mashed
    2 qt Milder Ro-Tel Chopped
    - Tomatoes
    2 ts Thyme
    1/2 ts Oregano
    1/2 ts Basil
    6 Fresh sage leaves; chopped
    2 lb Peeled crawfish tails
    - (that's what was
    - available)
    Hot sauce
    Hot rice
    3 Scallions; chopped (opt)

    UDD sez: This was some good. I brought home ALL the
    leftovers

    Melt butter and shortening. Mix in flour and stir
    constantly over low heat to make a medium brown roux.
    Add onions and celery and stir over medium heat for a
    minute. Add peppers and stir over medium heat for a
    minute. Add garlic and stir over medium heat for a
    minute. Add tomatoes and herbs. Cook over low heat an
    arbitrary length of time, at least 20 min. Add crawfish
    tails 15 minutes before serving.

    Season to taste with hot sauce. Serve over rice and
    sprinkled with scallions (which I forgot).

    Michael Loo's recipe, Alabama Jam (Echo Picnic) 1998

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Dec 30 05:38:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    kernels, or, if I have them (seldom) pine nuts, and maybe some cheese.
    I have been known to take a tarted-up bagged salad, put it in a BIG
    bowl and make that my supper.

    We've bought them too, Sam's Club usually has a good assortment. Their sweet kale one got Steve to like (raw) brussels sprouts; he still
    doesn't like cooked ones. My favorite one has greens, apple, Cheddar cheese, raisins and bacon bits with a cider vinegarette dressing--sort
    of sweet/sour.

    I've not seen pre-bagged salads w/apples or fruit. But, then, I don't
    do anything tainted with WalMart affiliation. And seldom buy bagged
    salad in any event.

    We'll get them from time to time, good when fresh vegetables aren't as readily available or too expensive. IIRC, Wegman's has one with apples also but then too, you don't have them in your area.

    But, I do have Hy-Vee - recently named as the #1 grocery chain in USA.

    One of the things I like about the local truck-stop's restaurant is
    that any non-breakfast meal you order comes with a chice of one of the soups of the day (they always have two except Sunday - when it's
    Creamy Chicken Rice soup only) or you can take a "side salad" with lettuce, shredded carrot, some sliced or diced tomato and a couple
    nice slices of cucumber. Even a burger & fries comes w/that choice.

    Sounds good to me; I'll most likely take the salad, especially if
    they have 1,000 Island dressing.

    Oh, they do.

    I'll take that, on the side please.

    That's how they bring it. In a nice plastic "souffle" cup. If you ask
    for "lots" as I do w/blue cheese dressing - they bring two cups. Bv)=

    When Magic Kitchen came to town it was the first Thai place here. They lady who ran the front of the house had been a missionary and she got married to a Thai chef. I ordered garlic-pepper pork and was going to
    get it "hot" when she warned me that was "Thai Hot" not "round-eye
    hot". So i ordered medium and it was about at the top of my heat tolerance.

    Some time later I was having lunch. Magic Kitchen having become one of
    my regular stops. A cople of guys I know from the race track came in
    to "try it out". They ordered their dishes hot even though she warned them.

    I watched ot the corner of my eye as they sat at their table glaring
    at one another. I could almost hear te "macho-mindset" thoughts ...
    "He's gong to take another bite. Which means I'll have to take
    another ... "

    I ran across one of the guys later and asked (facetiously) how he
    liked his lunch. He said, "Shoulda listened to her and let Steve
    be a "Hero" by himself."

    Pays to listen to the waitress. I got some Thai once in HI, started out nice and mild but got hotter the more I ate of it. Good, but didn't
    want to roast my mouth. Steve finished it for me and admitted that it
    was hot, even for him.

    Now that I'm not doing hot stuff regularly it takes a lot less to "get
    my attention". Bv)=

    This is fairly mild as long as you stay away from the "Big Jim" cultivar
    of the NuMex chilies. I'll be making this for Happy Hangover Day (01 Jan)
    even though I never go out on Amateur Night.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pollo Poblano (Chicken w/Tomatillos & Poblanos)
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 Fresh poblano chilies
    3 Anaheim/NuMex chilies
    3/4 lb Tomatillos; diced *
    1 lg White onion; chopped
    2/3 c Red bell pepper; diced
    4 Green onions; chopped
    6 cl Garlic; minced
    1 c Chicken broth
    3 tb Oil
    2 lb Chicken; skinned, boned; in
    - 2" pieces
    1/4 c A-P flour
    1 tb Dried oregano
    1/2 ts Salt
    pn Black pepper
    Cayenne pepper
    2/3 c Fresh cilantro; chopped

    * a 14 oz can of tomatilos, drained, rinsed and chopped
    may be used if fresh is out of season - UDD

    Preheat oven to 450oF/232oC.

    Roast peppers for about 25 minutes, until the skins can
    easily be removed. Remove skins, and chop peppers. (I
    use either a gas grill or the stovetop method - UDD)

    In a medium saucepan, combine chopped peppers with
    tomatillos, onion, red pepper, green onion, and garlic.
    Stir in chicken broth. Heat to a boil, reduce heat, and
    simmer 15 minutes.

    Heat oil in a large skillet over medium heat. Dredge
    chicken in flour, then saute briefly. Pour tomatillo
    mixture over chicken. Season with oregano, salt, black
    pepper, and cayenne. Simmer for 25 minutes, or until
    chicken is no longer pink. Stir in the cilantro just
    before serving.

    Serve with refritoes and arroz (beans and rice).

    Recipe from: http://allrecipes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 30 14:22:30 2024
    Hi Dave,


    As long as he hires good help.

    I predict that he will. All of his staff at Charlie Parker's - with
    the exception of one "new hire" who was caught adding unauthorised
    tips to credit cards. I was one of those who was got. She added a
    U$5 tip to an U$8.89 tab. It was easy to spot since I never tip via plastic. Always on the table. And always in my "wairess bait" format.
    Gold dollar coins, half-dollar coins and U$2 bills. Gets me remembered favourably and I get sparkling service on sbsequent visits. Bv)=

    Fun to give--and get--those kind of tips. Good thing the new hire was caught, hopefully before much damage was done.

    When I asked about the "high price" is when I learned she had been
    "outed" - and my breakfast was comped. I'm reasonably sure they did
    the same for anyone else who spoke up.

    Good way to keep a long time customer, may encourage a first timer to go
    back with management like that.


    8<----- CHOP ----->8

    My basic beef stew is meat, onion, carrots, potatoes, mushrooms and tomatoes. Other add ins, if in the fridge include celery, turnip or parsnips. The tomato is usually in the form of sauce, as part of the liquids. A splash of red wine adds some depth to the flavor without overpowering other flavors.

    Maybe it's my taster. But I couldn't determine any difference in that recipe.

    It's a very subtle taste, probably Michael would have picked it up but
    not us "average tasters".

    True Dat! He amazed me more than once.

    I first met MLoo at my first picnic at Pat Stockett's in Alabama.

    I met him on the phone in AZ; he'd come to the area to see a friend and
    called me since we lived nearby but couldn't arrainge a meet up. Did
    meet in person in HI when he came over with Carol Bryant and a couple
    who'd moved to the main land but back to HI for the holidays. Had a nice
    lunch at Sam Choy's "Breakfast, Lunch and Crab", one of our favorite
    places in Honolulu.
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jan 1 06:14:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've not seen pre-bagged salads w/apples or fruit. But, then, I don't
    do anything tainted with WalMart affiliation. And seldom buy bagged
    salad in any event.

    We'll get them from time to time, good when fresh vegetables aren't as readily available or too expensive. IIRC, Wegman's has one with apples also but then too, you don't have them in your area.

    But, I do have Hy-Vee - recently named as the #1 grocery chain in
    USA.

    Do you know where Wegman's fell on the list?

    Here's the Top 10: (and a link)

    https://10best.usatoday.com/awards/travel/best-grocery-store-2024/

    10 - Fresh Tyhme Market
    09 - Wegmans Food Markets
    08 - Trader Joe's
    07 - Publix Super Markets
    06 - ALDI
    05 - Gelson's Markets
    04 - Stew Leonard's
    03 - Heinen's Grocery Store
    02 - The Fresh Market
    01 - Hy-Vee

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bacon, Lettuce & Avocado Sandwich
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Fruits, Vegetables
    Yield: 1 Serving

    2 tb Mayonnaise
    1 sl Marble rye sandwich bread
    1 (or 2) baby romaine lettuce
    - leaves
    2 sl Bacon; cooked crisp, halved
    1/4 Avocado; pitted, sliced
    3 (or 4) sundried tomatoes in
    - oil; drained, sliced
    Salt & pepper

    Spread mayonnaise on bread. Top with lettuce, bacon,
    avocado and tomatoes. Season to taste with salt and
    pepper. Place top slice of marbled rye.

    Serves: 1

    Source: Hy-Vee Seasons Back to School 2016.

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.hy-vee.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jan 1 15:06:41 2025
    Hi Dave,

    We'll get them from time to time, good when fresh vegetables aren't as readily available or too expensive. IIRC, Wegman's has one with apples also but then too, you don't have them in your area.

    But, I do have Hy-Vee - recently named as the #1 grocery chain in
    USA.

    Do you know where Wegman's fell on the list?

    Here's the Top 10: (and a link)

    https://10best.usatoday.com/awards/travel/best-grocery-store-2024/

    10 - Fresh Tyhme Market
    09 - Wegmans Food Markets
    08 - Trader Joe's
    07 - Publix Super Markets
    06 - ALDI
    05 - Gelson's Markets
    04 - Stew Leonard's
    03 - Heinen's Grocery Store
    02 - The Fresh Market
    01 - Hy-Vee

    Surprised that Wegman's is so far down on the list. I've seen other
    lists where it is in the top 3. Guess it just depends on who is making
    up the list and who they ask. I've never heard of 4 of the 10.
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jan 3 05:07:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We'll get them from time to time, good when fresh vegetables aren't as readily available or too expensive. IIRC, Wegman's has one with apples also but then too, you don't have them in your area.

    But, I do have Hy-Vee - recently named as the #1 grocery chain in
    USA.

    Do you know where Wegman's fell on the list?

    Here's the Top 10: (and a link)

    https://10best.usatoday.com/awards/travel/best-grocery-store-2024/

    10 - Fresh Tyhme Market
    09 - Wegmans Food Markets
    08 - Trader Joe's
    07 - Publix Super Markets
    06 - ALDI
    05 - Gelson's Markets
    04 - Stew Leonard's
    03 - Heinen's Grocery Store
    02 - The Fresh Market
    01 - Hy-Vee

    Surprised that Wegman's is so far down on the list. I've seen other
    lists where it is in the top 3. Guess it just depends on who is making
    up the list and who they ask. I've never heard of 4 of the 10.

    I was surprised that Weggies was that far down-list. Hy-Vee and Wegman's
    are very similar in many aspects. Only two of those I'd never heard of
    until this list - Gelson's and Heinen's.

    Stew Leonard's is an American regional chain of eight supermarkets in Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey, which Ripley's Believe It or
    Not! deemed "The World's Largest Dairy" and Fortune magazine listed as
    one of the "100 Best Companies to work for" in 2011. It's probably the
    tiniest to make USA Today's Top 10 list.

    Never made this - but it do look good. I've never used a sheet pan for
    anything except mas toasting of bread or cooking large quantities of my favourite vegetables - bacon. Bv)=

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    Title: Roasted Lemon Chicken Thighs & Vegetables
    Categories: Poultry, Potatoes, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 Bone-in chicken thighs
    1 ts Thyme leaves
    1/2 ts Kosher salt; divided
    1/2 ts Fine ground black pepper;
    - divided
    3 tb Extra virgin olive oil
    2 1/2 c Quartered or halved small
    - red or Yukon Gold potatoes
    2 1/2 c Chopped carrots
    1/4 ts Smoked paprika; opt
    1 md Red onion; in wedges
    1 Lemon; in 4 wedges

    Set oven @ 450oF/232oC.

    In a large bowl, stir together the thyme, 1/4 ts salt,
    1/4 ts ground black pepper, and 1 tb olive oil.

    Add the potatoes and carrots and toss to coat. Spread
    the mixture onto a rimmed baking pan.

    In the same bowl, add the chicken and toss to coat.
    Place the chicken thighs on top of the vegetable mixture
    and sprinkle evenly with the paprika, if using. Nestle
    the onion and lemon wedges around the mixture.

    Roast, stirring the vegetables occasionally until they
    are tender, and an instant-read thermometer inserted
    into the chicken reaches 165oF/74oC, about 30 minutes.

    RECIPE FROM: https://blog.stewleonards.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jan 3 13:33:34 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Here's the Top 10: (and a link)

    https://10best.usatoday.com/awards/travel/best-grocery-store-2024/

    10 - Fresh Tyhme Market
    09 - Wegmans Food Markets
    08 - Trader Joe's
    07 - Publix Super Markets
    06 - ALDI
    05 - Gelson's Markets
    04 - Stew Leonard's
    03 - Heinen's Grocery Store
    02 - The Fresh Market
    01 - Hy-Vee

    Surprised that Wegman's is so far down on the list. I've seen other
    lists where it is in the top 3. Guess it just depends on who is making
    up the list and who they ask. I've never heard of 4 of the 10.

    I was surprised that Weggies was that far down-list. Hy-Vee and
    Wegman's are very similar in many aspects. Only two of those I'd never heard of until this list - Gelson's and Heinen's.

    I didn't know about Fresh Thyme Market, Gelson's Markets, Stew
    Leonard's and Heinen's Grocery Store. Became acquainted with Publix and
    The Fresh Market while in Savannah, have the latter in Raleigh and the
    former both here and Raleigh. Never been in a Hy-Vee but know of them,
    thanks to you.

    Stew Leonard's is an American regional chain of eight supermarkets
    in DD> Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey, which Ripley's Believe It
    or DD> Not! deemed "The World's Largest Dairy" and Fortune magazine
    listed as DD> one of the "100 Best Companies to work for" in 2011. It's
    probably the DD> tiniest to make USA Today's Top 10 list.

    Sounds like FreshTown; it replaced the A&P in my folk's town in the
    Catskills. People in town thought it on the expensive side but Steve and
    I thought they were well in line with what we pay.

    Never made this - but it do look good. I've never used a sheet pan
    for DD> anything except mas toasting of bread or cooking large
    quantities of DD> my favourite vegetables - bacon. Bv)=


    Title: Roasted Lemon Chicken Thighs & Vegetables
    Categories: Poultry, Potatoes, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    Sheet pan cooking has been popular for a few years now. I've not tried
    it formally but have put meat & potatoes on a pan, something like squash
    in another one and shoving it all in the oven. Been doing that for
    years. (G)
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jan 5 05:43:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Surprised that Wegman's is so far down on the list. I've seen other
    lists where it is in the top 3. Guess it just depends on who is making
    up the list and who they ask. I've never heard of 4 of the 10.

    I was surprised that Weggies was that far down-list. Hy-Vee and
    Wegman's are very similar in many aspects. Only two of those I'd never heard of until this list - Gelson's and Heinen's.

    I didn't know about Fresh Thyme Market, Gelson's Markets, Stew
    Leonard's and Heinen's Grocery Store. Became acquainted with Publix and The Fresh Market while in Savannah, have the latter in Raleigh and the former both here and Raleigh. Never been in a Hy-Vee but know of them, thanks to you.

    I had, at least, heard of the others except Gelson's and Heinen's.

    Stew Leonard's is an American regional chain of eight supermarkets
    in Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey, which Ripley's Believe
    It or Not! deemed "The World's Largest Dairy" and Fortune magazine
    listed as one of the "100 Best Companies to work for" in 2011. It's probably the tiniest to make USA Today's Top 10 list.

    Sounds like FreshTown; it replaced the A&P in my folk's town in the Catskills. People in town thought it on the expensive side but Steve
    and I thought they were well in line with what we pay.

    Many higher quality stupormarkups get the rap of being "high-priced".
    And I suppose that's true to those who don't care about quality nor
    have a clue about how to shop. Mostly Joe Sixpack and his slatternly girlfriend/wife Ima (fill in your own disparaging term).

    I get the weekly adverts for all of the local stores delivered to my
    in-box. And before I start a shopping trip I parse the ads to see where
    the deals are. I do not buy groceries from (or anything else) WalMart
    or Target. Target I give a miss because they've redesigned their local
    HUGE BOX store so that grocery shopping is *very* inconvenient.

    Never made this - but it do look good. I've never used a sheet pan
    for anything except mas toasting of bread or cooking large quantities
    of my favourite vegetables - bacon. Bv)=

    Title: Roasted Lemon Chicken Thighs & Vegetables
    Categories: Poultry, Potatoes, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    Sheet pan cooking has been popular for a few years now. I've not tried
    it formally but have put meat & potatoes on a pan, something like
    squash in another one and shoving it all in the oven. Been doing that
    for years. (G)

    I may try a few things - the New York Times has been touting some nice sheet-pan recipes. I may give one a shot if cooking for more than just me.

    Dunno where I'd find rhubarb this time of year - but this looks good ...

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    Title: Sheet-Pan Chicken w/Rhubarb & Red Onion
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 3/4 lb Bone-in, skin-on chicken
    - thighs & drumsticks
    1 ts Ground coriander
    1 ts Kosher salt; more as needed
    1/4 ts Fresh ground black pepper;
    - more as needed
    1 lg Red onion; in 1/2" wedges
    5 Thyme sprigs
    3 tb Extra-virgin olive oil; more
    - as needed
    8 oz Rhubarb stalks; in 1/2"
    - pieces
    3 tb Honey; more to taste
    1/2 c Cilantro or mint leaves &
    - tender stems; torn

    Set oven # 425ºF/218ºC and line sheet pan with parchment
    paper.

    Pat chicken dry with paper towels and season all over
    with coriander, 1 teaspoon salt and 1/4 teaspoon pepper.

    Place onion wedges on the prepared sheet pan and lightly
    season with more salt and pepper. Add chicken and thyme
    sprigs to the pan and drizzle 3 tablespoons oil over
    everything. Toss until well coated, then spread chicken
    and onions in a single layer. Roast for 10 minutes.

    While the chicken is in the oven, combine rhubarb and 3
    tablespoons honey in a medium bowl. Lightly drizzle with
    oil, add a pinch of salt and pepper, and toss until
    rhubarb is well coated.

    Remove chicken from oven and carefully spoon rhubarb
    onto the hot pan around the onions and chicken. Continue
    roasting until the chicken is cooked through, and the
    rhubarb and onion are tender and caramelized, 25 to 35
    minutes longer, tossing the rhubarb and onions (not the
    chicken) once about halfway through.

    Stir the rhubarb and onions very well, making sure to
    incorporate all the browned bits and chicken juices from
    the bottom of the pan (this is the tastiest part). Then
    sample a piece of rhubarb. If it's very tart, drizzle
    with a little more honey, tossing well. Serve chicken
    with rhubarb-onion mixture garnished with herbs.

    By: Melissa Clark

    Yield: 3 to 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jan 5 17:10:52 2025
    Hi Dave,


    I didn't know about Fresh Thyme Market, Gelson's Markets, Stew
    Leonard's and Heinen's Grocery Store. Became acquainted with Publix and The Fresh Market while in Savannah, have the latter in Raleigh and the former both here and Raleigh. Never been in a Hy-Vee but know of them, thanks to you.

    I had, at least, heard of the others except Gelson's and Heinen's.

    Part of the fun with moving around so much was exploring new to us
    grocery stores on the economy. Berlin had one supermarket near where we
    lived but most Germans shopped at the bakery, the butcher, the produce
    stand, etc. I did some of both, as well as the commissary.

    Stew Leonard's is an American regional chain of eight supermarkets
    in Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey, which Ripley's Believe

    Sounds like FreshTown; it replaced the A&P in my folk's town in the Catskills. People in town thought it on the expensive side but Steve
    and I thought they were well in line with what we pay.

    Many higher quality stupormarkups get the rap of being "high-priced".
    And I suppose that's true to those who don't care about quality nor
    have a clue about how to shop. Mostly Joe Sixpack and his slatternly girlfriend/wife Ima (fill in your own disparaging term).

    In this case, it's "small town provincial". If you've not travelled over
    50 miles from where you grew up, all your life experiences are based on
    that small town point of view, nothing to compare it to. OTOH, if you've
    done a lot of travel, you have a lot of different life experiences that influence your view point.

    I get the weekly adverts for all of the local stores delivered to
    my DD> in-box. And before I start a shopping trip I parse the ads to
    see DD> where the deals are. I do not buy groceries from (or anything
    else) DD> WalMart DD> or Target. Target I give a miss because they've
    redesigned their local DD> HUGE BOX store so that grocery shopping is
    *very* inconvenient.

    Most often now we shop at Wegman's, for the convenience and quality. We
    will stop at Lidl sometimes; it's just up the road from Wegman's to
    check out their "other than groceries" stuff, but don't buy a lot of
    food there. We shopped Lowe's a lot when we first came to WF, then
    Publix when they moved in, will stop in those 2 if we're out an need
    something & they're nearby. Same with Harris Teeter; Food Lion is
    further out so we generally don't hit them up. Usually don't go to
    Target, will get some groceries (but no meat or produce) at Wal Mart if
    we're there for other, non food, stuff.


    Sheet pan cooking has been popular for a few years now. I've not tried
    it formally but have put meat & potatoes on a pan, something like
    squash in another one and shoving it all in the oven. Been doing that
    for years. (G)

    I may try a few things - the New York Times has been touting some nice sheet-pan recipes. I may give one a shot if cooking for more than just
    me.

    Dunno where I'd find rhubarb this time of year - but this looks good
    ...


    Title: Sheet-Pan Chicken w/Rhubarb & Red Onion
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Print it out, stick it on your fridge to remind you when rhubarb comes
    in season in a few months. That's what I do with recipies I want to try
    but need to pick up some of the ingredients called for.
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jan 7 05:51:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sounds like FreshTown; it replaced the A&P in my folk's town in the Catskills. People in town thought it on the expensive side but Steve
    and I thought they were well in line with what we pay.

    I miss the A&P. They, and Piggly-Wiggly were my first supers. Before
    that it was Shuppman's, Novak's, or Joe Palai's grocery store. They
    were all centered on their butcher department.

    Many higher quality stupormarkups get the rap of being "high-priced".
    And I suppose that's true to those who don't care about quality nor
    have a clue about how to shop. Mostly Joe Sixpack and his slatternly girlfriend/wife Ima (fill in your own disparaging term).

    In this case, it's "small town provincial". If you've not travelled
    over 50 miles from where you grew up, all your life experiences are
    based on that small town point of view, nothing to compare it to. OTOH,
    if you've done a lot of travel, you have a lot of different life experiences that influence your view point.

    I get the weekly adverts for all of the local stores delivered to my in-box. And before I start a shopping trip I parse the ads to see
    where the deals are. I do not buy groceries from (or anything else) WalMart DD> or Target. Target I give a miss because they've redesigned their local HUGE BOX store so that grocery shopping is *very* inconvenient.

    Most often now we shop at Wegman's, for the convenience and quality. We will stop at Lidl sometimes; it's just up the road from Wegman's to
    check out their "other than groceries" stuff, but don't buy a lot of
    food there. We shopped Lowe's a lot when we first came to WF, then
    Publix when they moved in, will stop in those 2 if we're out an need something & they're nearby. Same with Harris Teeter; Food Lion is
    further out so we generally don't hit them up. Usually don't go to
    Target, will get some groceries (but no meat or produce) at Wal Mart if we're there for other, non food, stuff.

    ALDI (LIDL's cousin) is a regular stop for me for some things, mostly
    eggs, packaged bread and milk. I don't eat a lot of bread and their
    L'Oven whole wheat/grain bread seems to have a much longer shelf life
    than Brownberry or Pepperidge Farm, etc. We have a new(ish) market here
    named "Harvest Market" which is part of a local(ish) mini-chain whose
    "schtick" is locally grown/processed/fresh meat and produce and packaged products. They have a nice in-store restaurant like Wegman's or Hy-Vee
    which I have tried a couple times. I have yet to buy any groceries at
    that location.

    Then there are the ethnic markets. We have Indian, Chinese, S.E. Asian, Italian-American Imports, etc. I buy my miso paste at one of the Chinese markets. And some Indian specialities at Masala Mart.

    Sheet pan cooking has been popular for a few years now. I've not tried
    it formally but have put meat & potatoes on a pan, something like
    squash in another one and shoving it all in the oven. Been doing that
    for years. (G)

    I may try a few things - the New York Times has been touting some nice sheet-pan recipes. I may give one a shot if cooking for more than just
    me.

    Dunno where I'd find rhubarb this time of year - but this looks good
    ...

    Title: Sheet-Pan Chicken w/Rhubarb & Red Onion
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Print it out, stick it on your fridge to remind you when rhubarb comes
    in season in a few months. That's what I do with recipies I want to try but need to pick up some of the ingredients called for.

    Dennis has the front of the icebox covered with pension cheque schedules, grandkid pixtures, etc. Rhubarb is a regular "get" for me at the farmer's market, Food Fantasies, or Hy-Vee. I'll be starting a small patch between
    two of the raised bed islands that replaced the evergrees in fron to the
    house. The other aisle-way will get asparagus. No H.O.A. to tell me I can't. And as long as I don't raise livestock or chickens the city doesn't care.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Rhubarb Sauce
    Categories: Five, Sauces, Fruits
    Yield: 2 Pints

    2 c Water
    2 c (level) sugar
    3 lb Rhubarb; in 1" pieces

    Make a syrup with the water and sugar. Boil together a
    few minutes.

    Add rhubarb to syrup when it starts boiling in center.
    Watch closely and let boil *JUST* *1* *MINUTE*

    Now here is the trick that makes ordinary rhubarb sauce
    a Sauce Deluxe: Pour into a bowl or pan with a tight
    cover. Leave tightly covered until cold, and you will
    find a sauce very different from any you have ever eaten.

    Good on I scream, panquakes, waffles, toast, biscuits,
    peanut butter sarnies, whatever you care to add it to.

    Originally from Recipes With A History; Yankee Magazine

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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